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Post by Domi on Apr 10, 2007 0:32:52 GMT -5
I always thought Nirvana was pretty overrated... But on the other hand, if just one person took a look at their influences and got turned on to actual good music, that can only be a positive thing. Also, Green Day were signed to Reprise before Dookie; that album was never on Lookout! Where do you think they got the money for the production on that album? Also, I'll drink with the Georgetown punks and punch Jello and Ness. I love the DKs but Jello is way too self-righteous for my tastes; you hear about his shit fit because the rest of his former bandmates licensed a cover version of "Too Drunk To Fuck" to be used in Grindhouse? And I really really don't like Social D and have heard enough stories of Ness being a prick.
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Post by Jackass on Apr 10, 2007 6:55:06 GMT -5
Never cared for Ness or Social Distortion at all. I always found Rollins to be too cool for the room and that really put me off a lot. I was always ambivilant about him after Joe got killed.
I would agree with Domi about Jello if it wasn't for Ray and Klaus setting the table for the schism during the Frankenchrist trial. After that, it intensified when Klaus and Ray wanted to sell Holiday In Cambodia for a GAP commercial and Jello objected, then the fighting over Jello not paying royalties, etc... I just objected to the DK touring with Brandon Cruz as the DK, so I would rather drink with Jello. I don't think it's so much being self righteous as it is maintaining consistency.
Love to drink with the other Georgetown scenesters: Bad Brains especially.
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Post by kingdzbws on Apr 10, 2007 10:13:33 GMT -5
HR is the man, so I'd love to have a spliff w/ him.
I see the four I mentioned above as the prototypical self-rightious prick punk frontman (HR too, in a way), that's why I lumped them together.
I'd leave the Straight Edge to Dever and Gooner (Hahaha) Henry Rollins needs to put on some shoes. I think he wanted to be Ian MacKaye, but comes off more like Jello's clown act. I would have loved to have met Jello before his 'spoken word' phase, but Jello is Jello, and the DK's were one of my first bands to love, so.... and I get the impression that Mike Ness thinks everyone is stupider than he is.
So MacKaye, Rollins and Ness get the gasface. Biafra and HR get cookies and milk.
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Post by nobeernofun on Apr 10, 2007 10:34:31 GMT -5
I opened for a lot of the west cost bands in the early 80's . Henry Rollins was very cool with every one . they where touring in a van . that they split in to so they had a top bunk & a bottom bunk . talk about close quarters . Gregg was way cool too . all the bands where hanging around the van B.S.ing . Jello & the D.K.'S did not interact with us drinkers much . they did put on a hell of a show !!! Flipper where the best if you had any alcohol they would not leave till it was all gone . Mike Ness was a Junkie dick wanting to be payed before playing , then leaving for Reno with to Junkie bimbo's & their next show was in S.F.
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Post by Chris on Apr 10, 2007 12:43:44 GMT -5
On the punch or have a drink with game - I'd like to punch them all. They're all pricks.
I got to know Mike Ness mildly...playing in bands in the same circles, different random interactions in Orange County "substance abuse" groups, and participating in the car customization scene as well....most accounts are true...the guy is pretty much a douchebag even in sobriety...but nowadays more in a flippant snooty way as opposed to a junkie-dickhead way. But, having said that, whether they’re your cup of tea or not Social Distortion, at least musically, is up there with the cream of the crop of SoCal punk/hardcore bands. X, TSOL, Bad Religion, Social Distortion, and to a lesser extent The Dickies are the bands that most deserved the critical acclaim they received. Not doubting the importance of bands like The Germs, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, The Adolescents, The Bags, Fear, The Weirdos, etc... I LOVE all those bands, but musically none of them exhibited the growth that Social Distortion and those others did....my 2 cents anyway
For some reason I had it in my head that Dookie went the same route as Bad Religion's Recipe For Hate - indie record re-released on a major. My bad Domi. But the point still stands....Nirvana paved the way for the mainstream success of lots of these kinds of bands...at least commercially.
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