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Post by area51 on Mar 22, 2007 8:43:49 GMT -5
That is a bunch of bull....
#1 . My team was the MotherFucXers on strike !! and even after benching my whole team for a few weeks (possibly more than a month) I didn't finish in last ..... I think Gus did.
If I didn't bench them I didn't have a chance at winning anyway, I could probably finish ahead of some other people but not get into the $$$$ so it didn't really matter...
And besides the reason why I did that (besides the fact that I didn't have a chance) was because if I'm not mistaken they (the players union) was talking about going on strike and cancelling the playoffs so I got a little mad that they were going to do that shit again (like they did in 94 and fuck both the Yanks and Expos)......
Tom ......... the only thing you have to do at the draft (besides drafting some sorry ass team) is BRING MY BOTTLE OF Jack Daniels, that way you learn NOT TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND BET AGAINST THE BACK IN BLACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See you saturday .... sucka ......
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Post by IronHorse4 on Mar 22, 2007 10:36:10 GMT -5
What's this? I don't recall this draft-day side bet....better hope we don't down that shit on the train, Jose.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Mar 22, 2007 10:38:18 GMT -5
I dont really remember it either. I'm just taking his word for it.
Sigh.
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Post by IronHorse4 on Mar 22, 2007 10:39:36 GMT -5
Is there any proof of this? I think you should fight this. Doesn't sound like the type of bet you would make.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Mar 22, 2007 11:12:04 GMT -5
Yeah, this has me in one sense flabbergasted, in another simply befuddled. I must have been tricked into this under the influence of alcohol, if anything.
Jose, whats the story here. Are you pulling a rib on me?
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Post by MSBNYY on Mar 22, 2007 11:48:51 GMT -5
I'm just saddened at Jose's actions in 2002. He put his team on the bench, and finished in last as a result. He would have beaten Gus fairly easily if he just kept his HITTERS in. It remains a black mark on the history of this league.
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Post by jwmcc on Mar 22, 2007 12:54:57 GMT -5
Wait a minute, I thought Gus finished last, since before relagation you used to say the last place finisher got the Gus Memorial award or some such thing.
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Post by MSBNYY on Mar 22, 2007 14:27:19 GMT -5
Gus never finished last. But that was only because Jose did his evil deed.
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Post by area51 on Mar 22, 2007 14:46:09 GMT -5
Marc I never fifnished last ....... look at your standings ...... Damm I suck is not my team .... the name of my team was MotherFuckers on strike !!! ........ You have the names reversed ..... trust me on that one .... it doesn't matter either way finishing last or next to last ...... BUT my team was MF's on strike !!!!!!!!!!! As for you sheriff ....... I CAN NOT believe this shit ..... after you talked shit at the beginning of last season I actually posted on section39.com that you should stop talking shit and put your money were your mouth was and make the bet bigger and you didn't want to ...... remember now ? Tom remember there is no crying in baseball ........
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Post by MSBNYY on Mar 22, 2007 14:54:17 GMT -5
I still have Tom's fax of the 2002 Final Standings from last year. It's missing the pitching numbers, but it has the league standings. The order of finish is right. The point totals are not.
Last place was MF's ON STRIKE.
Not playing your team for several weeks can do that.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Mar 22, 2007 15:04:48 GMT -5
Hmmm. Going by the rules, then, Jose should have been kicked out of the league instead of Gus. Cause we have that relegation rule. Why did Jose come back the next year?
This is spinning out of control.
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Post by elliejay21 on Mar 22, 2007 16:16:15 GMT -5
You didn't start the silly soccer rule until 2 years ago.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Mar 22, 2007 17:16:53 GMT -5
Are you sure about that? I am pretty sure thats why Fat Rak got the boot.
And, as to why we started the "silly rule" in the first place, its to stop people out of the money from folding the tent, quitting on the league, and letting their team fester. Now, if they want to come back, they need to fight till the end.
The rule is one of the best things to happen to the competitive nature of the league.
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Post by MSBNYY on Mar 22, 2007 17:29:46 GMT -5
Laura's right. The relegation rule started 2 years ago, with Walkman John. That's why it's called the Walkman John Rule, in his honor.
Had that rule been in place in 2002, Jose would have got the boot for a year. But then again, he wouldn't have benched all his players and easily would have hung on. He was up on Gus by over 200 points going into the last session, and given the 2002 scoring system, that may have been the equivalent of 300 points today.
As for Scott, he never finished last. He finished in 2nd place in 2002, 2nd place AGAIN in 2003, 10th place in 2004, and retired in the black. In fact, Scott is the only person who retired with winnings. Everyone else who is in the black is still active.
They are Jose, Evan, Justin, Knoblauch, Larry, and Pops. However, once the draft is over, Jose and Pops immediately fall back into the red, as the 2007 numbers become a factor.
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Post by jwmcc on Mar 22, 2007 17:56:59 GMT -5
" And, as to why we started the "silly rule" in the first place, its to stop people out of the money from folding the tent, quitting on the league, and letting their team fester. Now, if they want to come back, they need to fight till the end."
As someone who was for the rule, the problem so far as been the two people who were affected by it weren't people who folded the tent, the tent just collapsed itself. Jw
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Post by $heriff Tom on Mar 22, 2007 20:47:58 GMT -5
the problem so far as been the two people who were affected by it weren't people who folded the tent, the tent just collapsed itself.
People do not fold the tent anymore. The rule stopped that. So now people play until the end. 3 years ago Grover's team would have been safe, cause someone would probably have stopped playing. We dont want that anymore, and now its a fight to the end.
The fact that two good players were booted the last two years VINDICATES the decision.
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Post by elliejay21 on Mar 22, 2007 22:05:32 GMT -5
What John said & that is my proof that the rule is silly.
We are all well aware that the year John was relegated, *someone* got a new girlfriend and paid no attention to his team for weeks at a time and *someone else* had Pavano in his lineup for two months that we all are well aware was time Pavano spent on the DL... that same someone said he doesn't care about maintaining his team because the only reason he's in the league is because he loves hanging out on draft day. Last year he was either sandbagging guys on his DL or going weeks with 3 SP and 6 hitters, because the guys in his lineup were on the DL and he didn't bother fixing it, but Grover was the guy who got relegated.
If you are a YANKEE fan and have injured Yankees in your lineup, you are NOT "fighting to the end."
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Post by $heriff Tom on Mar 22, 2007 22:38:29 GMT -5
Well, if you ARE "fighting to the end" and you lose to people like you addressed above, maybe you need to take a year off.
Stop bitching. The relegation rule is not going anywhere. You'll be gone before the rule is.
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Post by MSBNYY on Mar 23, 2007 6:10:41 GMT -5
Fact is, these things happen. If you draft a really crappy team, it's hard to catch up to a better team, even if that better team is mismanaged. It's even harder in this league, with the limitations on lineup changes.
But it's like that in any league. I remind you that Evan once lost to a dead guy. He died in August with his lineup still in tact, and finished in 7th out of 10.
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Post by area51 on Mar 23, 2007 8:22:02 GMT -5
That is a great rule..... and maybe starting with the 2007 winner he should get the first pick in the draft.....
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Post by area51 on Mar 23, 2007 8:23:47 GMT -5
Actually not .... getting the first pick sucks anyway .... that will be more like punishing the winner and not rewarding him ......... either way bring the bottle...... and to think it could have been blue label ........
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Post by $heriff Tom on Mar 23, 2007 8:36:50 GMT -5
Bottle has already been purchased...and its NOT blue label...
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Post by MSBNYY on Mar 23, 2007 8:37:02 GMT -5
I'll try to look into it, but with a snake draft, you shouldn't have an advantage or disadvantage no matter where you are in the lottery.
What sucks about a snake draft in a draft like this is the wait between picks when you're on the end.
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