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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 6, 2007 13:36:30 GMT -5
I only recently got into Metamorpho, and bought this book on a whim after reading a zany writeup on him on a comic blog I was checking out over the summer. That collection has all his vintage age stuff, and it is written in a very campy style. I like it.
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 6, 2007 14:54:32 GMT -5
Metamorpho was actually the center of a 2 part Justice League episode.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 6, 2007 14:55:04 GMT -5
That is included in this massive tome.
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Post by grover on Feb 6, 2007 15:58:26 GMT -5
Both DC and Marvel have been reprinting their old stuff in that format, for dirt cheap. the only draw back is that it's in black and white, which takes away a huge factor in it's charm, but the stories are there nonetheless and they are quite funny. What I just started:
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 6, 2007 16:09:16 GMT -5
Dana read that, and loved that. I am sure she'll speak for herself on it, though.
As to those comic compendiums, those are a worthy investment. They sell for like $12, the black and white format keeps it cheap and if you can find worth in the story, you're good to go. The next one on my list, out shortly, is the vintage Aquaman tales. Whoo hoo.
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 6, 2007 17:43:04 GMT -5
I have a few of those, but not black and white stuff.
I would recommend a short book called Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. It's sort of a wrap for about 30 years of Superman continuity, before the character was significantly altered in 1986. Personally, I like the old version better.
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Post by grover on Feb 7, 2007 0:13:38 GMT -5
That also happens to be what most comic fans consider the greatest Superman story ever written, which also happens to come from the man who most claim wrote the greatest Batman story ever, as well as the most important and greatest comic book story ever, Watchmen.
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 7, 2007 13:47:10 GMT -5
What was the greatest Batman story ever?
I don't know if I would call it the greatest Superman story ever, but I liked it. I consider it a shame that they felt the need to reboot Superman and essentially erase the Silver Age one.
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Post by grover on Feb 7, 2007 14:40:06 GMT -5
The Killing Joke. If you read it now, it won't seem like much, because the stories have been told over and over, but it was the origin of the Joker, the story where Batgirl getting crippled, and Moore pretty much unravels Batman and Joker in the final scene. I can honestly say I have yet to read or see a better or more profound Batman story.
Keep in mind, these stories have more of an impact when you're a comics fan. Both stories get lost on the young now, and many don't get it, but that Superman story was a big deal then because it was considered the last story of the silver age Superman, before his reintroduction.
I also don't mind the reboot of comics. I think after a while, the comics need to fir the time, and most are stuck in a time warp where they want to move on yet not lose the fanbase that wants golden age do-good campy stuff. Hell, Marvel has been contemplating a total reboot, and has been working on things to get it that way.
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 7, 2007 15:32:45 GMT -5
For the most part, it WAS the last Silver Age story. I think he's only reappeared once, sort of.
For me, the best Superman story was the origin.
I think they made some mistakes with the Superman reboot, notably getting rid of Superboy. They recently left the door open for changing that though. The Silver Age version remains my favorite.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 7, 2007 15:38:39 GMT -5
Last night on Jeopardy (the Teen tourney) this lunkhead was saying how his favorite all-time character and obsession in life is all things Batman....except the comics. He loves all the movies, the cartoons, the action figures, all kinds of collectables, but has no use for the comics and has never read them.
Is it just me or does that sound dumb?
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 7, 2007 16:24:02 GMT -5
It does sound dumb. Usually the comics are the best stories.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 7, 2007 16:29:23 GMT -5
I understand not being into comics, but if you are a guy that is "all things Batman" and you collect all this stuff regarding him, how you would go without reading the comics is nonsensical to me.
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 7, 2007 17:21:21 GMT -5
Exactly. The comics are the basis of his favorite thing.
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Post by grover on Feb 7, 2007 22:26:18 GMT -5
That's like collecting Baseball memorabilia, jerseys, hats, ticket stubs and programs and not being a fan of watching the game or even following it.
Sounds like an asshole to me.
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Post by Ms. Jericho on Feb 19, 2007 22:54:16 GMT -5
I'm now reading "The Boleyn Inheritance" part of a series of books by Philippa Gregory about the many wives of my man Henry VIII. Thumbs up.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 20, 2007 9:08:42 GMT -5
My wife likes Henry VIII, and magicians too. I like Sherlock Holmes, and am building my library bit by bit. I have started getting pastiches put together by other than Art Conan Doyle (including a book of admittedly weaker tales by his son a bunch of years back)
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 20, 2007 9:46:25 GMT -5
I didn't realize you two were so close that you could call him Art. In high school, I read some of the works of Bill Shakespeare myself.
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Post by Jackass on Apr 17, 2007 19:15:06 GMT -5
Rorschach and Comedian ruled. The Nite Owl was a pussy, Silk Specter, Jr. was a cock tease and Dr. Manhattan can eat my balls. Oh yea, Ozymandias was a fucking fruit. First graphic novel I've ever read and I am sorry I didn't take this stuff seriously. Awesome story. Next up: Ex Machina followed by Pride of Baghdad. Then, I'll try and catch up with Y: The Last Man.
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Post by grover on Apr 17, 2007 21:44:08 GMT -5
Geez, someone set you up with a Brian K. Vaughn trio. I haven't read Pride of Baghdad, but let me know if there is a gay element in it, because I think Vaughn is a poofter and he seems to have poofs in all his books.
The guy who made 300 is currently working on the Watchmen movie. supposedly Jude Law loves the book and wants to be Ozymandias. That said, it's going to blow.
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Post by yanxchick on Apr 17, 2007 23:18:33 GMT -5
I'm on Book IV of The Dark Tower.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Apr 18, 2007 7:55:57 GMT -5
Grover, I am planning on dipping into this J Strange and Mr Morrell book once I heal up, Dana read it and enjoyed it to the fullest, and I know you are reading it. Is it worth a go for me?
One of the biggest drawbacks to this busted wing of mine is that I can not read comfortably. The most I can pull at ease is looking at a mag or newspaper with one arm in the air, from a prone position on the couch. Books are not an option right now, and that sucks, cause I am known to read a good chunk each and every day.
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Post by Jackass on Apr 18, 2007 11:57:11 GMT -5
Grover, Here is the Rorshach image that was in the 300 R Rated Trailer. It was one frame that was inserted into the trailer. Looks good. I heard that Tom Cruise wanted to play Ozymandias also. I hope it's not a gay flick. I wanted to read Watchmen after seeing your comment about it, and then hearing Ron Bennington mention it on the Ron and Fez Show. They had Brian K. Vaughn on the show and that was why I wanted to read his stuff. He is writing for the TV show Lost now.
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Post by grover on Apr 28, 2007 22:49:23 GMT -5
By the way Jackass, there's a big hubbub going around that the ending of Heroes is a blatant rip off of Watchmen. It's not subtle either, it's pretty blatant.
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Post by Jackass on Apr 29, 2007 8:18:10 GMT -5
Glad I never watched the show, so I won't care about the rip-off.
My other reviews: Pride of Baghdad was not that good, in my opinion. I was rather disappointed. I liked Ex machina and will finish the series up. It has a good storyline and the style is great too.
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Post by jwmcc on Apr 29, 2007 11:13:35 GMT -5
"By the way Jackass, there's a big hubbub going around that the ending of Heroes is a blatant rip off of Watchmen. It's not subtle either, it's pretty blatant."
I read an article about that in The Post this week. The creator of Heroes and a few others were trying to say he doesn't even read comic books so they couldn't possibly have ripped off from Watchman. Jw
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Post by grover on Apr 29, 2007 11:19:34 GMT -5
Yeah but one of the Writers and producers, Jeph Loeb, does write comics and is a great writer.
*spoiler ahead*
Basically, the character played by Malcom McDowell is going to nuke NYC in order to unite the world, the same way Vedit got the alien to destroy half of NYC in order to stop the cold war and the impending Armageddon, uniting the world.
I mean, that's not a case of "taking ideas" which we see in various works. This isn't similar, it IS that ending. Now when the movie comes out, people are going to go "Hey that's like the ending of Heroes." Gay. I heard that show is abysmal, and now I REALLY don't want to watch it.
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Post by Jackass on Apr 29, 2007 14:43:10 GMT -5
Is McDowell's character living at a polar base, too? Maybe one of the characters that gets killed off will send their journal to the "New Frontirsman" also.
Fucking gay to rip it off out right.
Independence Day kind of had that gimmick also.
BTW, one of the scripts for Watchmen floating around the web had Veidt opening a hole in time and sending a bullet through to kill Dr. Manhattan rather than create the alien, because he felt that The U.S. Government's use of Dr. Manhattan is what caused the nuclear showdown.
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Post by elliejay21 on Apr 29, 2007 19:23:02 GMT -5
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Post by yanxchick on May 4, 2007 22:17:40 GMT -5
I'm on Book V of The Dark Tower.
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