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Post by rlm6370 on Jul 30, 2008 19:04:11 GMT -5
Is Larry Beinfest about to school "Wonderboy"
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Post by 9 on Jul 30, 2008 19:40:06 GMT -5
I will be shocked if this happens. Manny makes more than the entire Marlins roster.
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Post by rlm6370 on Jul 30, 2008 20:05:14 GMT -5
I will be shocked if this happens. Manny makes more than the entire Marlins roster. But he's only getting 7million for the rest of the year and Boston would have to pick that up. It's a rent a player, he's gets arbitration at the end of the year, which he wants and the Marlins get 2 more draft picks |
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jul 31, 2008 9:06:55 GMT -5
And Manny himself is pushing for this to happen. He wants to go. They are just working out the particulars at this point. Jason Bay will end up in Boston as part of a "three-way."
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Post by 9 on Jul 31, 2008 9:47:28 GMT -5
I thought Boston's version of a three-way involved Wade Boggs, Margo Adams and a plate of chicken.
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Post by Chris on Jul 31, 2008 13:58:21 GMT -5
Peter Gammons is reporting today (Thursday) that a trade involving Manny is more likely NOT to happen.
I hope he's wrong.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jul 31, 2008 14:21:26 GMT -5
Lot of hoops to wrangle through....I was starting to think that myself.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jul 31, 2008 14:43:47 GMT -5
They've been cockteasing Manny leaving Boston for years. It NEVER happens.
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Post by joetee316 on Jul 31, 2008 15:38:52 GMT -5
Don't look now but Manny to Joe Torre's Dodgers
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Post by ajfreakz on Jul 31, 2008 15:55:34 GMT -5
manny to dodgers...
bay to redsox
andy laroche,brandon moss,and craig hansen to pirates
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Post by Chris on Jul 31, 2008 16:22:54 GMT -5
If you're a Dodger fan and now you have Manny....
....uhhh BIG DEAL! What NL pitcher is actually going to be dumb enough to throw this guy a strike? It's not like you have to worry about James Loney the way you do Youkilis or Pedrioa or Lowell after you put Manny on base....and it's not like you have an Ortiz caliber guy hitting in front of him.
I mean, yeah they got a great hitter....but what good is a great hitter in a lineup of 8 other poor hitters.
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Post by 9 on Jul 31, 2008 16:31:43 GMT -5
Poor Joe Torre.
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Post by Chris on Jul 31, 2008 16:37:41 GMT -5
Exactly!
the pressure just became greater for Joe Torre to deliver a pennant with a .500 caliber team.
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Post by massyanksfan on Aug 1, 2008 13:12:10 GMT -5
Agreed!!! At least I will not have to watch that idiot and his hair any longer when I do get to see an occasional game on NESN. Living in ASSachusetts sucks. |
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Post by Chris on Aug 4, 2008 13:13:16 GMT -5
Christ....Manny is hitting .615 in Dodger Blue.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Aug 4, 2008 13:17:38 GMT -5
So, any of you privvy to this stuff about his dreds? Torre wants him to get them chopped, but he does not have the juice to order it. So he played it really cute, but coming out publicly and mentioning that IF Manny DOES cut them, Torre will donate a heap of money to childrens charity.
Thats sorta cute, so if Manny does not do it, it appears he is not for the kids. If I was Manny, I would simply match Torre's offer, and not cut them.
To be blunt, with him hitting like he is, i would wait till things slow down before I start talking about his friggin hair or anything like that, if i was Joe Torre.
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Post by Chris on Aug 4, 2008 13:30:18 GMT -5
The thing that really stinks about this is that Manny's performance against the D-Back tells me one thing (as if we already didn't know) - this guy is a petulant sand-bagger.
I can't help but think that this guy, if mentally "there" could be a Ted Williams like hitter....and he just voluntarily chooses to not be "in the game" at all times.
The Dodgers don't have any conservative grooming codes, so Torre should shut the fuck up. A few years ago, Gagne's unruly goatee was all the rage....Dodger Stadium even sold "GAME OVER" t-shirts with a silhouette of Gagne's face and some fuzzy blue goatee hair glued to it.
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Post by Chris on Aug 4, 2008 13:35:56 GMT -5
As you know, Joe Torre asked Manny Ramirez to cut his hair, but I have this hunch it will never happen.
Torre disagrees, so now one of us will be making a charitable donation.
If Ramirez returns to Dodger Stadium a week from today to open the team's next home stand with all his hair, Torre said he would make a donation to Mattel Children's Hospital at UCLA.
As part of the deal, Torre agrees he will say nothing more to Ramirez about his hair, believing Ramirez heard him the first time they talked.
If Ramirez shows up to Dodger Stadium without the dreads, Page 2 will make a donation to the Joe Torre Safe at Home Foundation.
As part of the deal, of course, I will say nothing more to Ramirez about his hair.
But just between you and me, who is Torre kidding?
You think he's going to bench Ramirez because the guy doesn't get his hair cut?
You think if he fines him it will make a difference, Ramirez knowing he's not getting paid by the Dodgers, so there's no money to take out of his pay?
You think the Red Sox are going to take it out of his pay, and do a favor for the former Yankees manager?
I haven't come up with a nickname for Torre yet, but Delilah is under strong consideration.
Right now the Dodgers have Samson batting cleanup, and it's just a fact, if he cuts his hair -- he loses his strength and becomes Juan Pierre.
I mention the jawbone of an ass, and I would imagine Gary Matthews is a little nervous about what I might write next, but it's just what Samson was swinging when he was hitting everything out of sight.
"Manny's helped us win two games and who knows how many more," Derek Lowe says, and yet Delilah's thinking clippers, and that's what the Dodgers will be, all right, without Samson.
Now I know this is a big deal to some people, Frank from Santa Barbara e-mailing every day asking when Torre is going to "be a man of principle" and insist on Ramirez following his grooming rules.
My response: "Why so worried about a guy's hair?"
And Frank replies, "If you look at Ramirez, and don't know and like it, no way I can help you. No wonder I don't like you."
He looks fine to me touching all the bases, the Predator as far as the Diamondbacks are concerned, and I don't know how anyone could have more fun at the ballpark than the last few days.
The dreads are part of the package, the attitude infectious, and while that might wear off, no reason to cut any of it short prematurely.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Parking Lot Attendant doesn't start growing some dreads as giddy as he must be, getting a guy he doesn't have to pay while making millions from ticket and merchandise sales off him.
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Post by Chris on Aug 4, 2008 13:38:05 GMT -5
Glad to see that Torre is focused on his BEST hitter's hair style.
The Dodgers are only 1 game over .500, a game back in a division that will NOT provide the NL Wild Card playoff team, making winning the division imperative.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Aug 4, 2008 13:38:38 GMT -5
Yeah, Torre knows there are no set grooming rules, but it gets his goat. Thats why he is doing this cheezy "childrens charity" angle.
I am not a traditionalist in the sense of the word that the white home Dodger uni should be of impeccable cut, but Manny sure looked odd in it, with the dreds flopping about.
But he's sure having fun...for now, and the fans are loving him....for now.
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Post by Chris on Aug 4, 2008 13:41:13 GMT -5
Oh I agree that Manny Ramirez look and attitude flies in the face of baseball tradition, but again....Gagne sported an oversized uni and a disheveled look during his tenure in Chavez Ravine as well.
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Post by Chris on Aug 4, 2008 13:53:32 GMT -5
Not everyone cal look like Brett Butler in a baseball uniform! ;D
that guy was probably the most immaculately dressed player in uniform, EVER.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Aug 4, 2008 13:58:09 GMT -5
Butlers are always well groomed.
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Post by MSBNYY on Aug 4, 2008 14:21:32 GMT -5
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by ajfreakz on Aug 4, 2008 14:33:29 GMT -5
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Post by Chris on Aug 4, 2008 14:37:19 GMT -5
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Post by Chris on Aug 12, 2008 23:45:44 GMT -5
So I've been monitoring this guy since he came to town....he's just lights out. He did it again tonight....the guy is just an RBI machine.
Does anyone have any reason to believe that he will NOT be a Dodger next year?
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Post by MSBNYY on Aug 13, 2008 6:32:46 GMT -5
Yes. He wants to be a Yankee to stick it to Boston.
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Post by Chris on Aug 14, 2008 21:20:36 GMT -5
Watching the Dodger game....
Manny cut.....ehhhh...sort of....his hair.
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Post by Chris on Sept 1, 2008 0:44:59 GMT -5
Went out to Phoenix this weekend....saw Manny go 3 for 4 with 2 HRs. The guys is a machine.
More in the ....hmmmm....where shall I discuss my weekend.......more in the VACATION thread I guess to come, w/pics.
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