$heriff Tom
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Nov 22, 2006 11:37:12 GMT -5
Post by $heriff Tom on Nov 22, 2006 11:37:12 GMT -5
I cant do any of those things.
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Nov 22, 2006 11:52:52 GMT -5
Post by grover on Nov 22, 2006 11:52:52 GMT -5
And it's why he didn't win it in the end.
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Nov 22, 2006 12:14:38 GMT -5
Post by Jason Giambi on Nov 22, 2006 12:14:38 GMT -5
if Jeter's not bitching about it, neither should you.
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Nov 22, 2006 12:24:46 GMT -5
Post by 9 on Nov 22, 2006 12:24:46 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the guy who really got hosed was Mauer. That has to be one of the best performances EVER by a catcher.
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MSBNYY
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Nov 22, 2006 15:15:55 GMT -5
Post by MSBNYY on Nov 22, 2006 15:15:55 GMT -5
You have to be utterly blind to not know there's an anti-Yankee bias. ARod's numbers were overwhelming last year. Plus, unlike the fat fuck, he played the field. There was no way to deny ARod. The anti-Yankee bias was in the Cy Young when Mariano got ripped off.
If you think Jeter has no range, you obviously don't watch him or are a Red Sox fan, or both.
Jeter means a SHITLOAD more to the Yanks. The batting title and Cy Young were won on the Twins--without Morneau.
5 All stars? A popularity contest doesn't make these guys as valuable as Jeter--and that was addressed.
How can you deny the Yanks win 90 games? Because the entire team missed serious time with injury last year. The starting pitching stinks.
If you think Jeter affected less than ten games, you didn't watch the Yankees in 2006.
Leave it to the self hating Yankee crowd to not give Jeter his due.
Mauer got hosed? Well, that just goes to the argument that Morneau wasn't even the MVP of the Twins.
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Nov 22, 2006 15:37:52 GMT -5
Post by grover on Nov 22, 2006 15:37:52 GMT -5
Balls, I hate to break this to you, but Morneau won more games for the Twins than Jeter did for the Yanks, and that was acknowledged.
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MSBNYY
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Nov 22, 2006 16:33:54 GMT -5
Post by MSBNYY on Nov 22, 2006 16:33:54 GMT -5
By whom? The idiots who voted for Morneau? The schmuck who voted Jeter 6th?
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Nov 23, 2006 0:22:11 GMT -5
Post by Jason Giambi on Nov 23, 2006 0:22:11 GMT -5
While I know that voting for these awards is primarily based on differing opinions and statistical debates, it's also part of what makes baseball such a great sport. "Having said that, I'm flattered and honored to have been considered for the American League Most Valuable Player Award. I want to congratulate Justin Morneau on this well-deserved honor. He is a special player, and I suspect this won't be the last time you will hear his name mentioned when awards are being passed out.
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Nov 23, 2006 2:34:27 GMT -5
Post by globix on Nov 23, 2006 2:34:27 GMT -5
How's this for a new wrinkle? According to Buster Olney on M & MD today, the writer who voted Jeter 6th had his voting privileges taken away for a year by the BBWAA for "leaving obvious contenders off his ballot" a few years ago
With that said, I think Morneau is a very deserving winner. Guess I won't land him in the 12th round of next years draft
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$heriff Tom
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Nov 23, 2006 10:04:48 GMT -5
Post by $heriff Tom on Nov 23, 2006 10:04:48 GMT -5
Its not a "new wrinkle" at all. You guys are ignoring the fact that even if this guy voted Jeter first, he still would not have won.
Admittedly, when I first heard that he voted Jeter 6th, my eyebrow raised in consternation. Then I saw the 5 guys he voted ahead of him....coincidentally enough these were all guys that recieved 1st place votes from someone in this voting. Guys like Santana, Ortiz, Frank Thomas, Jermaine Dye.....sorry, but I dont have a real problem with any of those guys. Its not like he was voting for Juan Pierre, or even other guys who got votes but dont touch Jeter last year, like Sizemore or Vlad Guerrero.
You guys are whining but Jason Giambi even got MVP votes. I would have to think those came from NY writers, so there's a bias right there.
Finally, this guys writes were NOT taken away by the BBWAA, they were suspended by THE NEWSPAPER HE WORKED FOR AT THE TIME, as they did not think he was putting enough research into it, and not taking it seriously enough. Lets get out stories straight, folks.
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Nov 23, 2006 10:59:19 GMT -5
Post by MSBNYY on Nov 23, 2006 10:59:19 GMT -5
Jason Giambi getting MVP votes is a joke too. But that doesn't change that Derek Jeter should have got the award, and the bottom line is that Cowley is a complete jackass. He should NEVER have the right to vote again. It doesn't matter if he swung it or not, his judgement is idiotic.
This isn't the worst MVP robbery ever. But the wrong guy won.
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Nov 23, 2006 11:42:26 GMT -5
Post by Jason Giambi on Nov 23, 2006 11:42:26 GMT -5
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Nov 23, 2006 12:08:47 GMT -5
Post by 9 on Nov 23, 2006 12:08:47 GMT -5
I actually laughed a little bit when I saw that Giambi got votes.
As for Cowley, if anyone heard his interview with the two WFAN idiots, he proved that he was a moron. He paid no attention to the Yankees at all, and knew nothing about Jeter's performance during the five-game sweep, which was easily the biggest series of the season.
If you're not going to at least track the contenders for the award, you shouldn't have a vote.
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Nov 24, 2006 1:11:43 GMT -5
Post by globix on Nov 24, 2006 1:11:43 GMT -5
Sheriff, if you read my entire post, you would see that I am not whining. I said Morneau was a very deserving winner. I also did not mean to imply that this guy cost Jeter the MVP. I just think it says something about the guy who voted Jeter 6th that he has lost his voting privileges previously, whether it be the BBWAA or his newspaper that took his right to vote away from him. Especially since he was on the radio this week saying that ARod was just as important to the Yankees this year as Jeter was.
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