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Post by thecaptain15 on Dec 13, 2007 14:27:11 GMT -5
Gagne on list...
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Post by thecaptain15 on Dec 13, 2007 14:28:15 GMT -5
Sorry Balls. Go stick your head in a bucket and bang it with a hammer. And dont forget to boo Pettitte next year, and do your little syringe pantomime, you idiot.
;D ;D ;D
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 13, 2007 14:29:40 GMT -5
Kevin Brown on the list. And is anyone surprised that Fernando Vina is on it?
Brendan Donnelly on the list.
Obviously that list that was out earlier and posted on the other board apparently was crap.
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 13, 2007 14:30:14 GMT -5
If nothing happens, it would be like Ford pardoning Nixon.
Very weak.
Two Yankee championships tainted.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Dec 13, 2007 14:32:40 GMT -5
Two Yankee championships tainted.
In your eyes......I will gladly take any memorabilia you are getting rid of from those two championships..Thank you....
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Post by jwmcc on Dec 13, 2007 14:33:15 GMT -5
Kevin Brown on the list. And is anyone surprised that Fernando Vina is on it? Brendan Donnelly on the list. Obviously that list that was out earlier and posted on the other board apparently was crap. I wonder if Vina will fess up on Baseball Tonight, or if ESPN lets him go.. Not surprised about Donnelly. And that list you speak of has been deleted. Jw
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Post by thecaptain15 on Dec 13, 2007 14:33:29 GMT -5
I think the MFers could beat team of players assembled from this list..........(Clemens/Pettite aside)
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Post by Domi on Dec 13, 2007 14:39:04 GMT -5
Where's the pr0FF3ss0r?
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Post by Bad Mouth Larry on Dec 13, 2007 14:41:06 GMT -5
Sorry Balls. Go stick your head in a bucket and bang it with a hammer. and when you are done with that, keep the bucket on your head and walk out into traffic.
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Post by Chris on Dec 13, 2007 14:45:25 GMT -5
Looks like the only BIG names implicated that are surprising are Pettitte, Clemens, and Tejada.
At least surprising in the sense that none of those guys were previously under Bonds/MacGwire/Sosa/Giambi-like scrutiny.
Ah well, it is what it is. Again, we still don't necessarily know what it means to be listed in this report, but it can't be good regardless of the severity.
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 13, 2007 14:46:58 GMT -5
Cho--it's not just a list. The report has lots of details on what they did.
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Post by Jason Giambi on Dec 13, 2007 14:48:46 GMT -5
Sorry Balls. Go stick your head in a bucket and bang it with a hammer. and when you are done with that, keep the bucket on your head and walk out into traffic. LOL
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Post by Chris on Dec 13, 2007 14:48:50 GMT -5
I haven't read the report. I did see that there's a specific account of Roger Clemens taking an injection on a specific date.
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Post by Domi on Dec 13, 2007 14:48:54 GMT -5
Andy Pettitte is a pitcher who since 1995 has played with two teams in Major League Baseball, the New York Yankees (10 seasons) and the Houston Astros (3 seasons). He has been named to the All-Star team twice and was Most Valuable Player in the 2001 American League Championship Series. McNamee began serving as Pettitte's personal trainer and started assisting Pettitte in off-season workouts after the 1999 season. According to McNamee, during the 2001-02 offseason, Pettitte asked him about human growth hormone. McNamee said that he discouraged Pettitte from using human growth hormone at that time.
From April 21 to June 14, 2002, Pettitte was on the disabled list with elbow tendonitis.395 McNamee said that Pettitte called him while Pettitte was rehabilitating his elbow in Tampa, where the Yankees have a facility, and asked again about human growth hormone. Pettitte stated that he wanted to speed his recovery and help his team. McNamee traveled to Tampa at Pettitte's request and spent about ten days assisting Pettitte with his rehabilitation. McNamee recalled that he injected Pettitte with human growth hormone that McNamee obtained from Radomski on two to four occasions. Pettitte paid McNamee for the trip and his expenses; there was no separate payment for the human growth hormone.
According to McNamee, around the time in 2003 that the BALCO searches became public, Pettitte asked what he should say if a reporter asked Pettitte whether he ever used performance enhancing substances. McNamee told him he was free to say what he wanted, but that he should not go out of his way to bring it up. McNamee also asked Pettitte not to mention his name. McNamee never discussed these substances with Pettitte again.
After the 2001 season, Pettitte, like Clemens, continued to use McNamee's services and to serve as a source of income after McNamee was dismissed by the Yankees. In a 2006 article, Pettitte "acknowledged an ongoing relationship" with McNamee. Pettitte was quoted as having said that he still talked to McNamee about once a week. "Mac has trained me professionally for a long time, and I'll continue to use Mac," Pettitte said.
In order to provide Pettitte with information about these allegations and to give him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Dec 13, 2007 14:49:21 GMT -5
Clemens I could care less about..I didn't like him before he was a Yankee and I still don't like him..I cheered for him to win when he was a Yankee because he wore the uniform but I still didn't like him......It seems like Pettite did it a couple of times rehabbing from an injury to get back quicker.....big deal........Next!!!!
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Post by Chris on Dec 13, 2007 14:52:01 GMT -5
All pro Red Sox bias from Mithcell!!!!! It's all hogwash!
HAHAHA! You know, I'm kidding, right?
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Post by grover on Dec 13, 2007 14:52:27 GMT -5
I could care less who takes steroids and who doesn't. This list will not effect who I root for and who I don't.
The fallout from this will be good comedy though.
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Post by Chris on Dec 13, 2007 14:54:28 GMT -5
I'm a bit more bummed about this report than I thought I'd be.
Certainly I'm not pro-steroids, but this MIGHT be one of those cases in which ignorance truly is bliss.
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Post by Jason Giambi on Dec 13, 2007 14:57:06 GMT -5
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Post by Chris on Dec 13, 2007 14:58:49 GMT -5
Of course, we could all adopt to the brilliant Gary Sheffield approach to this:
Steroids is something you inject in your butt. If you haven't taken an injection in the butt, you haven't taken performance enhancing drugs.
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Post by kingdzbws on Dec 13, 2007 15:05:28 GMT -5
From SI.com
Besides Clemens and Pettitte, other ex-Yankees named include Mike Stanton, Chuck Knoblauch and Jason Grimsley. Orioles second baseman Brian Roberts also is in the report, as is Yankees and Braves postseason hero David Justice.
Other players include: Troy Glaus, Gary Matthews Jr., Rick Ankiel, Jay Gibbons, Mo Vaughn, Paul Lo Duca, Eric Gagne, Glenallen Hill, Gregg Zaun, Rondell White, Hal Morris, Todd Hundley, Larry Bigbie, Lenny Dykstra, David Segui, Matt Herges, Kevin Brown, Mike Lansing, Wally Joyner, Nook Logan, Jeremy Giambi, Benito Santiago, Denny Neagle, Ron Villone, Fernando Vina, Todd Pratt, Jack Cust, Matt Williams, John Rocker, Paul Byrd, F.P. Santangelo and Randy Velarde.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Dec 13, 2007 15:14:05 GMT -5
Good thing the Red Sox had no clubhouse attendants....LOL
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Post by Bad Mouth Larry on Dec 13, 2007 15:15:34 GMT -5
hensley bam bam muelens, big joe, mike blowers, paul zuvella, milton, len sakata, steve sax
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Post by Jason Giambi on Dec 13, 2007 15:17:57 GMT -5
where are you getting these names?
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Post by kingdzbws on Dec 13, 2007 15:24:13 GMT -5
Ron Kittle, Dan Pasqua, and Bob Shirley
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Post by Bad Mouth Larry on Dec 13, 2007 15:28:58 GMT -5
fred stanley, mike stanley, jackass, ed figueroa, paul blair, frost, deion sanders, henry cotto
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Post by jwmcc on Dec 13, 2007 15:34:12 GMT -5
That gag has gotten old fast...
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Post by kingdzbws on Dec 13, 2007 15:39:56 GMT -5
You know John, you've bulked up quite a bit since 2000 too.......Hmmm.
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Post by nobeernofun on Dec 13, 2007 15:44:57 GMT -5
So even on roids Kevin Brown could not punch a hole in the wall. what a loser !!!!
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 13, 2007 15:47:25 GMT -5
Isn't that how he broke his hand?
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