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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 26, 2007 9:29:16 GMT -5
Here's another dopey list for all ya'll to argue about. How many do YOU own? I own 18. I feel like a sellout!
Top 25 Most Influential Heavy Metal Albums of All Time, according to IGN Music:
01. METALLICA - Master of Puppets (Elektra Records, 1986) 02. BLACK SABBATH - Paranoid (Warner Bros., 1971) 03. IRON MAIDEN - Number of the Beast (Capitol Records, 1982) 04. MEGADETH - Rust in Peace (Capitol Records, 1990) 05. METALLICA - Ride the Lightning (Elektra Records, 1984) 06. OZZY OSBOURNE - Blizzard of Ozz (Jet Records, 1980) 07. SLAYER - Reign in Blood (American Records, 1986) 08. DIO - Holy Diver (Reprise Records, 1983) 09. METALLICA - ...And Justice for All (Elektra Records, 1988) 10. MOTÖRHEAD - Ace of Spades (Castle Music, 1980) 11. PANTERA - Vulgar Display of Power (East/West, 1992) 12. ANTHRAX - Among the Living (Megaforce, 1987) 13. BLACK SABBATH - Black Sabbath (Warner Bros., 1970) 14. FATES WARNING - No Exit (Metal Blade, 1988) 15. JUDAS PRIEST - Screaming for Vengeance (Columbia Records, 1982) 16. MÖTLEY CRÜE - Shout at the Devil (Elektra Records, 1983 17. MASTODON - Blood Mountain (Reprise Records, 2006) 18. OPETH - Blackwater Park (Koch, 2001) 19. PANTERA - Cowboys from Hell (Atlantic Records, 1990) 20. DEEP PURPLE - Machine Head (Warner Bros., 1972) 21. IRON MAIDEN - Piece of Mind (Capitol Records, 1983) 22. OZZY OSBOURNE - Diary of a Madman (Jet Records, 1981) 23. SEPULTURA - Roots (Roadrunner Records, 1996) 24. QUEENSRŸCHE - Operation: Mindcrime (EMI, 1988) 25. SCORPIONS - Lovedrive (Mercury Records, 1979)
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 26, 2007 9:37:51 GMT -5
The absence of My Pop The Pop Singer destroys the credibility of this list.
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Post by baldvinny on Jan 26, 2007 10:22:52 GMT -5
i own (or have owned) 5 of the above
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 26, 2007 10:45:17 GMT -5
Just 5? I'm surprised. I am also surprised I owned so many. Which 5 did you have?
The big controvesy on this one seems to be Mastadon...not only do a heap of people feel they are very overrated...but how can an album less than a year old be "influential?" Who has even had time to be influenced?
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Post by joetee316 on Jan 26, 2007 10:56:53 GMT -5
I own 7 of these. 1 2 5 6 7 9 22 I plan on adding Anthrax - Among The Living and Maiden's - # of the Beast to my collection.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 26, 2007 11:14:32 GMT -5
Maidens Number of the Beast is a joy. I could play that thing every day and never tire of it. The underrated gem on the list for me is Dio's "Holy Diver."
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Post by 9 on Jan 26, 2007 13:21:03 GMT -5
15 of 25.
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Post by Chris on Jan 26, 2007 14:03:49 GMT -5
I own:
02. BLACK SABBATH - Paranoid (Warner Bros., 1971) 16. MÖTLEY CRÜE - Shout at the Devil (Elektra Records, 1983) 10. MOTÖRHEAD - Ace of Spades (Castle Music, 1980) 13. BLACK SABBATH - Black Sabbath (Warner Bros., 1970)
Now, I'm not going to deny that any given Metallica doesn't belong on that list. I say this, freely admitting that metal isn't my area of musical expertise. However, it seems to me that in the big grand scheme of things, Metallica was a band that came a little too late in the game to be on TOP of a list of influential bands. Influential??? I'm not saying they aren't a top metal band of all-time, maybe even #1, but influential??? Maybe to a degree...but more influential than Sabbath? I mean, come on...Sabbath literally gave birth to just about every other band on that list.
But anyway, as Tom said, the point of this thread is to argue about it...so there's my argument.
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Post by 9 on Jan 26, 2007 14:29:18 GMT -5
I love Holy Diver, but I'm not sold on Dio being influential, either, with him coming straignt out of Sabbath and Rainbow.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 26, 2007 14:29:59 GMT -5
Hell, yeah, Metallica was influential. The number of thrash bands that came out in the late 80s - early 90s cloning the Metallica led brand of sound was immense. To THIS DAY there are still some bands out there that in 2007 are putting out what sound to be imitations - albeit not so spot on and good - of Metallica's albums from the 80s.
Trust me, as someone who drank from the vine of thrash metal for much of his days, Metallica (and I am not the biggest fan out there) was a HUGE inspiration.
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Post by 9 on Jan 26, 2007 14:44:45 GMT -5
I have a confession: I have never even HEARD of Opeth.
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Post by Chris on Jan 26, 2007 15:14:37 GMT -5
What you say is probably true Tom, BUT my point is, isn't the band that inspired the band who inspired more bands the MOST influential?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 26, 2007 15:28:37 GMT -5
Opeth are an excellent band that mix death metal, thrash, and progressive. They have abrasive death metal vox, 10 minute long songs, acoustics, and a dozen tempo changes within each song. Excellent at what they do, and monstrous on the thrash and metal circuit. On the verge of becoming 'mainstream' according to some, as there are constant rumors of an Ozzfest type of slot. I've been listening to them for a decade, they are NOT accessible at all, but non-accesable in todays rebellious society IS becoming accessible. And no doubt they are influential in their genre. VERY progressive in style. Head to Amazon, punch in their name, and read some reader reviews to get a good idea of them. EXCELLENT band overall.
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Post by 9 on Jan 26, 2007 15:33:57 GMT -5
I will definitely check them out. I'm just surprised I've never heard of them. I posted that out of embarassment, not as a shot at the band.
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Post by Chris on Jan 26, 2007 15:40:17 GMT -5
Me wonders why "metal fans" haven't flocked to the Turbonegro fan club in any large numbers.
A GREAT band...I think.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 26, 2007 15:41:00 GMT -5
I didnt take it as a shot to the band at all.
They are dark. Abrasive at times, but the music is also very technical. Some think they are in love with their talents, in a Dream Theatre sort of pomposity.
They also did an entire album of acoustic, melancholy music, that is insanely good. The fact that they can move in and out of both styles, sometimes in the same song, is a testament to them. Do check them out, seriously.
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Post by 9 on Jan 26, 2007 15:55:01 GMT -5
ch0, from what I've heard of Turbonegro, I LOVE their shit!
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Post by Chris on Jan 26, 2007 16:56:19 GMT -5
They are a great band. I think that the serious metal fans probably shy away from Turbonegro and/or don't take them seriously because their biggest public fans are the Jackass guys..particularly Bam Margera...so maybe they're viewed as a joke of sorts.
But, the kick ass.....Apocolypse Dudes is the PERFECT starting point to get yourself hip to Turbonegro.
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Post by seaniel on Jan 27, 2007 0:42:58 GMT -5
Looks like Opeth and Mastodon (especially) were thrown in there just to get something new in there. Kinda hard to call anything new, like from 2006, influential.
While I do think Metallica was influential, no way it should be # 1, that should've been Sabbath IMHO (24 years old, who am I to talk?!). Though I do feel they were influential, I think Tom, as you said, they were more inspirational. The main difference being how many GOOD bands came about trying to imitate Metallica?
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Post by sancho231 on Jan 27, 2007 0:59:31 GMT -5
I own : All of the Metallica albums on the list, Parinoid, Rust in peace, Billzard of ozz and all the pantera Albums on this. what this does make me relize is that i need to buy a few of these discs, Holy diver and number of the beast are at the top my my shoppin list right now
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Post by Chris on Jan 27, 2007 1:58:21 GMT -5
Why no AC/DC or Van Halen on there? Or do they fall under the "Hard Rock" genre as opposed to "Metal?"
Tom, the way you feel about "Number Of The Beast" is the way I feel about the Crue's "Shout At The Devil."
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Post by dolores on Jan 27, 2007 5:51:22 GMT -5
I only own Scorpions Lovedrive, but I've listened to most of those albums as this list describes my brother's record collection. I think that Motorhead's Ace of Spades and most of the Black Sabbath and Metallica records are the only records on this list that are truly "influential" when it comes to metal. Oops, I almost didn't see Motley Crue's Shout at The Devil until I read the post above mine. That too.
I don't know how influential Scorpions are to anyone, I just liked them.
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Post by Chris on Jan 27, 2007 6:16:15 GMT -5
I had a friend who had a friend from Germany. Everytime he'd introduce this German friend he'd say, "This is so-and-so. He's from Germany. Ask him if he knows the Scorpions."
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Post by JimmyBig on Jan 27, 2007 11:10:38 GMT -5
I am glad to see Queensryche: Operation Mindcrime on this list. Although Maiden will always be my favorite, Mindcrime is an absolute gem for the time period it was released.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 27, 2007 11:26:30 GMT -5
Looks like Opeth and Mastodon (especially) were thrown in there just to get something new in there
In Opeth's defense, they have 8 full-length slabs to their credit, swith their debut opus out in 1995. And, I have to say, they have sprung up dozens of clones. Just go to their MySpace page, click on a couple of songs, and listen, and get back to me on them. I think people are missing the boat on them.
I really like old Scorpions. I especially enjoy their live disc from Japan, the Tokyo Tapes, circa 1978. They started losing me a bit around the MTV era, although the last one I owned, 88's Savage Amusement, I really liked.
I am the same way around Germans except I substitute the mighty Accept for the Scorpions.
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