Mick Foley to TNA

[$heriff Tom]

Just read on the Torch that its done, and Foley is going to TNA. He is eligible to start as soon as his WWE contract expires, which is in days. 9/2, I believe.

Not sure how he will be used, but he wants to wrestle at least a specialized schedule ala Sting. Dont know if he will commentate or what. Apparently SPIKE helped facilitate the deal, so he may be involved in other projects on the network to boot.

[cactusjames]

I wonder what's up, they let Gail go, they are trying to resign Sting and the Dudleys, they let Tomko go, they sign Foley, and yet other contracts like that of Christian Cage are up soon. You'd have to think if they are so willing to let the person who helped build the Knockout Division, and how intent they are in signing Sting, are they going to be stupid enough to let Cage go, who helped solidify them as a serious contender. From what I read Cage has had frustrations at creative in the past, but tells them he's happy with his spot and wants to stay. He also said that to WWE before heading to TNA.

I don't know how likely it is, but with the signing of Foley and the talks with Sting(who was at the taping's and he's said he wouldn't be unless he was signed), it's a possibility. He left WWE on good terms and it's a no brainer to either feud him with Edge or re-unite them if it does happen, so there's at the very least options. They got a knack for letting go of good workers so I'll be interested in seeing how TNA goes about this in the near future.

[$heriff Tom]

Couple of things. Tomko is apparently back. We'll see where that goes. As to Christian, I think they have him by the balls cause he does not want to do the travel WWE entails. Everyone knows that.

They really lowballed Gail. From what I am reading, they offered like a year at a sub six-figure mark, while WWE tripled that, and guaranteed her 3 years. The Knockout division STILL draws the highest ratings on the show, and Gail was a centerpiece. For crying out loud, some sources are saying Kong is up soon too...can you imagine if she goes to WWE?

If Sting comes back its on TNAs terms, and it wont be afor a lot of money. But yeah, this will be fun to watch.

[cactusjames]

The Tomko thing was just these tapings. I read on prowrestling.net he's intent on wrestling for Japan, ironically for the same reason as Christian, the travel. He liked the way the matches are worked and the travel a lot better. He's also claimed some of his Japan matches were shoots but many "experts" have said at the very least the ending was scheduled which takes away any cred it was a shoot. But if he's bragging about it and being boastful, he must really be in favor the way he's used and handled there. So from what I know, he's just meeting contractual obligations showing up on these tapings, TNA isn't letting bygones be bygones and holding on to this one.

It was also said people in WWE wouldn't mind seeing Tomko back, but again, Japan is first on his list. And I wouldn't be shocked if WWE made a move at Cage just due to the fact Raw is in need of babyfaces since Cena is out and HBK isn't working full schedule. And from what I read Buubba Ray is a pain is these talks, if they do cave and sign the two, I can't see it being cheap, add on Foley, Sting, Nash etc., I could see Christian not being a priority.

[$heriff Tom]

James, TNA has too many people around back doing nothing, they did not bring in Tomko for a "one-shot." Looks like they may be mending fences. The best thing for Tomko is to balance the two promotions.

I also dont know where you are thinking TNA is going to drown the Dudleys in money. From everything I am reading TNA will be doing them a favor by bringing them back, and as WWE has no interest in them they can lowball them.

Trust me, Christan will NOT go back to WWE. He does not want the schedule. He took a major paycut to go to TNA.

[grover]

Ugh, I was glad Foley was gone.

[$heriff Tom]

It still surprises me to this day to think there as a time where I would have listed him as MY FAVORITE WRESTLER.

[grover]

Same, but he grew really, really, really stale.

[$heriff Tom]

A lot of insider fans are excited about a potential Mick / Samoa Joe struggle. The two did some stuff for ROH a few years back, and that was never culminated.

[cactusjames]

Tom, he had dates with TNA, taping's, that he had to fulfill. He wants as much a part of TNA as Christian does with WWE. I agree they have too many guys doing nothing, one of my guys Showtime Eric Young. No need for EY to be hanging with Shark Boy and Christopher Daniels acting like a jap. But Tomko is not happy with TNA and TNA isn't happy with him. He's meeting dates and that's it. There's been nothing said about him resigning. Where Sting on the other hand, would not be at a taping if he wasn't signed. Tomko is going to Japan, he's been used so rarely and he's been bitched out by Matt Morgan twice. What show are you watching?

[$heriff Tom]

Tom, he had dates with TNA, taping's, that he had to fulfill

Bullcrap.

They can just pay him to stay home. He does the company no good being a lame duck. He's not that important. This is them working together towards working things out.

[thecaptain15]

well last night during Kurt Angle's interview his boy MMA Frank said "Don't worry, I'll handle things for you and stick by you not like Tomko who left you to shoot wrestle in Japan after 10 years"... For what it's worth....

[$heriff Tom]

That was taped a couple of weeks ago. In the Observer Newsletter which just came online yesterday, Meltzer reported "Tomko is back."

Japan was not going to pay the bills, as the company he works for does not have a tour set up for a couple of months.

[cactusjames]

Meltzer is an ass, what about Frank Triggs line to Angle? I'm not leaving to go to Japan to do shoot matches? Contractual Obligations, I'm telling you he's set on going overseas. Was he even on impact thursday? Meltzer is a dummy, how about he speaks to sources within TNA and not form an opinion and pass it off as fact.

[$heriff Tom]

James, you retard, not only could it be part of an angle (ie Tomko showing up as a "surprise" when he is not expected to either help / hurt Angle) do you forget TNA shows are taped in advance??

TNA and Tomko split on good terms, and both sides apparently realized things are not so bad with one another after all. Apparently WWE did not bite in the last few weeks, so Tomko is heading back. Why argue? Its not the biggest news in the wrestling world one way or another.

[cactusjames]

Cause you're going by one website run by an ass. Why when I search the Torch, or Prowrestling.net, any site, and the only one that says Tomko is still with TNA is you and Meltzer? Why is it hard to accept he might just be meeting dates/tapings in his contract and then splitting? If TNA had signed him, or hoped to sign him, taped in advance or not, why bury the guy and have him job and get bitched out by someone as green as Matt fucking Morgan? They have no plans for him from where I'm sitting. The only mention of him was Trigg taking a shot at him in Angle's interview time. If they signedf him why not throw him right back in the mix and get the feud going with him and Joe? They were shaping that up to be a monster feud and then he goes to playing the chicken shit heel backing off Morgan within a week? You can tell by the way he's being booked.

If they had plans to re-sign him, why not protect him at the tapings? Why bury him?

[$heriff Tom]

Buried him? Dickhead, in case you have not read spoilers Tomko happens to end up wrestling in next weeks Impact Main-Event, having a competitive match against Joe. Its not a squash, its the main event of the show.

Apparently a compromise was reached where he wont be a full-time player, but will certainly be used now and again as they are on very good terms, and he lives just down the road.

[cactusjames]

Ok so still, it's a waste and they're practically letting him go. He's too good of a talent to be used every so often. He had a good match with Joe, that was supposed to be a big money feud for both guys. Now they're giving it away for free on TV. He went from being a full time worker who delievered to glorified jobber. And your rationale is he lives down the road? TNA is stupid. Talking about Nash in the other thread, and his whole thing, it makes Tomko more valuable but TNa is letting him, Gail, and who knows who else, just to re-sign Sting and the Dudleys. I hope Tomko turns around and says Fuck You to TNA and goes back to WWE. I'd rather see a Tomko vs HHH then Khali.

[$heriff Tom]

The Tomko thing is his own call. He has a lucrative gig in Japan playing a fake shoot-fighter, but it leaves him enough free time where he can be called upon as needed. If it was up to TNA, I am sure he would still be a main-event player.

Tomko will probably not take a WWE offer either, as he would not be able to work Japan. This is more complicated than you seem to understand.

Also, if TNA brings back the Dudleys its on their own terms, and for less money than they make. And apparently there is only ONE person who wants Sting back besides Sting, but that one person runs the company. Even Jarrett does not want him back.

[cactusjames]

I'd like you to find where I said he was 100% going to WWE? I know I read online WWE wouldn't mind having him back, all i said is at this point, if he's going to be brought in and out as needed aka a glorified jobber, than I'd rather see him in WWE. But I know he couldn't work Japan then, wanna know how I know? Cause WWE puts no compete clasues in their contracts. Hence the delay when Jeff Hardy went to TNA, he had to wait till after the non compete clause expired, same with Foley now.

So before you tell me I don't understand, or I'm not grasping something, please try and understand what I'm saying first before making assumptions about my understanding of how things work in wrestling.