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Post by joetee316 on Jun 30, 2008 12:56:23 GMT -5
Cover story in the latest Us Weekly
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Post by Ms. Jericho on Jul 1, 2008 8:21:05 GMT -5
Still. Ewww. And stop hollering, jerk.
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Post by rlm6370 on Jul 3, 2008 7:56:14 GMT -5
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jul 20, 2008 22:45:58 GMT -5
From the Torch newswire (thanks to em)...
A report from In Touch magazine says Brooke Hogan is considering posing for Playboy, possibly for the annual WWE-related cover around WrestleMania season.
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Post by rlm6370 on Jul 24, 2008 18:47:04 GMT -5
Brooke Hogan Asked to Pose Nude in Playboy Thursday, July 24, 2008
NEW YORK — Hulk Hogan's daughter Brooke has been approached to pose in an upcoming issue of Playboy, her publicist told the New York Daily News on Wednesday.
The singer, 20, who is starring in her own reality show on VH1 called "Brooke Knows Best," has already posed in a men's magazine. In 2006 she appeared on the cover of FHM in a bikini, much to the chagrin of her wrestler father.
Hogan's family has gone through a great deal of controversy in the last year. Her brother Nick is serving time in jail for reckless driving, and her mother is dating a 19-year-old classmate of Brooke's.
Earlier this month, she told the Associated Press that "it's one of those kind of things where, I am a very straight-laced person and maybe that makes it even harder for me to see the path that she's going down as being right. I don't understand it. I definitely don't condone what's going on."
Her rep told the Daily News that "no decision has been made at this time" on posing for the magazine.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jul 24, 2008 19:12:27 GMT -5
Hey! I just posted about this in the post above yours! Albeit in lesser detail.
Brooke has a man face.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jul 24, 2008 20:41:38 GMT -5
It'll happen eventually.
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Post by grover on Jul 25, 2008 1:05:45 GMT -5
Brooke Hogan is really not hot. At all.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jul 25, 2008 1:06:34 GMT -5
Im very much considering picking up her CD from Amazon Used for a penny. I mean, it has campy kitsh value, no?
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Post by rlm6370 on Jul 25, 2008 14:22:51 GMT -5
Im very much considering picking up her CD from Amazon Used for a penny. I mean, it has campy kitsh value, no? Is Amazon paying you the penny ?
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 20, 2008 12:03:28 GMT -5
Not sure if this is extra thread worthy, but I watched the Hogan wrestling reality show yesterday.
It's pretty funny. Kind of like Tough Enough meets Celebrity Boxing. Obviously, the WWE doesn't have to worry about ratings here, but this show definitely could have benefitted from working out a deal with McMahon to promote it.
It's definitely worth watching.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Oct 21, 2008 10:21:50 GMT -5
Nick was released from jail today after 166 days. Brooke picked him up, no sign of the parents.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Oct 27, 2008 12:58:20 GMT -5
I just watched the first show and I have to say this show is Balls' wet dream..Not only is it Hogan but just about everyone he idolized on TV growing uplike Danny "Partridge" Bonaduce, Dustin "Screech" Diamond and Todd "Willis" Bridges are part of this......I will continue to watch as it is as bad as I anticipated so it is a "train wreck" watch.....if you will....
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Post by thecaptain15 on Oct 27, 2008 13:24:06 GMT -5
Also I don't think Hogan has any other "cronies" left as they are all involved in this show.....Too funny...Bischoff, Barber, Nasty, Hart, Hubba The Love Sponge, Hervey...........
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 27, 2008 13:27:39 GMT -5
It's everything you could want and more!
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 4, 2008 18:07:29 GMT -5
So Hogan is not taking Vince's attack on his reality show merrily. He sniped on a radio interview today, when the hosts asked about him "exposing the business" that "the biggest expose in the business is Vince putting the World Title on his son-in-law for the last 6 years, thats the biggest expose of the business."
Things have gone real sour, and Hogan and Vince are once again seriously on the outs. Badmouthing HHH will get Hogan NOWHERE.
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Post by 4dogg on Dec 4, 2008 18:30:58 GMT -5
hogan was on in NY on WRXP with matt pinfield this morning.....sounded like he was hit with a big sack of spirituality
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 5, 2008 10:42:57 GMT -5
HHH is a worthy champion. He's no Hogan, but it's hard to argue that the belt was misplaced when he had it. This isn't like Mysterio getting the belt.
I don't buy into Vince's argument about Hogan's show. It doesn't expose anything that hasn't been exposed over the last 25 years. I thought it was a very cool look into people training from scratch.
Moderately entertaining, but I'm glad the finale is on Saturday.
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 5, 2008 11:10:51 GMT -5
I don't even know where to fucking start. Rey getting the belt was bad or the push he got as champ was bad? Go back and watch his title run, they never got behind with the belt, he never had a chance to have a successful run. Rey can have a better match on a weekly basis than 80% of the guys in the business right now, they want to sign him for 5 years. Why cause he sucks and he's not over? The company put zero faith in him when he had the strap.
But you're right about one thing, HHH isn't like Hogan, he can sell moves and does more than fucking 5 moves in a 7 minute match. I hate always going into this shit, I get you guys like him and that's cool but let's stop acting like he was a fucking ring general. Let's stop acting like Hogan was the most versatile guy ever. And fuck Japan and Stan Hansen Sancho, the guy could never go in the fucking ring. He matches were so fucking slow and dragged, they never kicked into another gear, you never saw nearfalls, for the most over guy ever, he's the shittiest in ring competitor ever. And now fucking Rey is getting smashed.
Personally I don't a fuck what Vince says about the show or what Hogan says about Vince. But no one exposes the business more than Hogan, and that's not counting his unwatchable shit for a show. When Randy Savage gives you 30 elbow drops in a match but you just pop up after a second every time, that fucking shows the business for what it really is. When you no sell for EVERYONE you make the business look bad. When you can barely move, but still come back for one pay day and make a everyday guy do the job, you expose the business. He did the job for the Rock, but not HBK, why, cause HBK is a bigger star than the Rock and his ego would take a hit losing to him. That doesn't show the fake side of pro wrestling? Fuck I hate this fucking douche bag. Yeah putting yourself above the product never ever does damage or expose the business. For as popular as Hogan made wrestling 50 year ago, he's trying to bury and destroy it now.
And plus HHH talks as much shit about Hogan as Hogan does of HHH. Ever since Hogan ducked Michaels after Summerslam HHH doesn't hold back saying Fuck him. Myself, I would love to see Hulky in a beheading video, fucking piece of shit. But again, the man has no common sense whatsoever, he's ripping a guy whos a full time worker and full time McMahon family member, it doesn't get dumber than that. At least I won't have to see this asshole take up valuable time on Wrestlemania. Maybe a match or two can go longer cause the fucking spotlight hog won't be there to no give it up.
But in his defense, all his crappy show is is a combo of Tough Enough and Surreal Life. Tough Enough showed the training and some inner workings same as this show but just with "celebs". But again, the entire fucking show isn't about the guys in the ring, it's about Hogan, always about him. If I had a choice of going into a Delorean and seeing Nirvana live or a 10 minute shoot match with the red and yellow fag, I'd fucking tear Hogan up in a second.
But honestly, I fucking sweat to Baby Jesus on a pogo stick if someone makes hogan out to be as good as Ricky Steamboat ever again, I'm going to freak out, start an anti Hogan thread, and make that bitch viral. And by balls saying HHH is no Hogan but better than Rey, it's insanity. When has Hogan ever done a suplex and poped his hips? Oh yeah he doesn't have a hip.
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 5, 2008 13:03:30 GMT -5
Even until the pretense that wrestling has some level of reality to it, the idea that Mysterio could be champ is ridiculous. He's physically too small. It was like accepting that Mayweather could actually last a few minutes in the ring with the Big Show. Impossible and no matter what they did, it's too hard to suspend the disbelief.
Talentwise, he's as good as anyone. I don't like him, but his ring skills are outstanding. And yes, he can have a great match at the drop of a hat, but that's not enough to be the champ.
I can see him as an IC champ, a cruiserweight champ, a tag team champ, but not as the leader of the company. No way.
Hogan is the best ever. HHH couldn't match his career no matter how many times he wins the belt. Hogan was the total package--he was 300 pounds, moved well in his day, and had the crowd like no one ever could. He MADE wrestling.
HHH carried the torch and has done great. He's a worthy champ. He can lead a company. But he's no Hogan.
And Hogan jobbed to a LOT of people after 2002. As for Hogan's show, he's barely in it. Makes a token appearance.
But he did have the funniest one liner when he basically told Dustin Diamond he would call him Screetch.
He is not good enough to lead a company.
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 5, 2008 16:47:12 GMT -5
So if it isn't about belts, it's about how long you can suck and still sell t shirts? I give Hogan the longevity card, although putting on the matches he has doesn't take too much effort, the fact he's a broken down sack of meat shows how fragile and limited he was in the ring. Obviously, he's one of the biggest commodities in the business, he draws and draws a lot, maybe more than anyone although when the attitude era was peaking, one could make the argument 3:16 was as big maybe bigger than Hulkamania. No saying it's fact but an argument could be made. Other than that what is there? Hogan's career is based on one big push, even when he was heel in the WWF before going to AWA and coming back face he wasn't a big deal, feuding with Tony Atlas calling him spearchucker, one push to the moon and that was it, but there was always better workers around and when he got stale and almost burried the business, guys like Austin and Rock became huge fucking sellers. And let's cut to the chase, if Andre doesn't jump into his arms who really cares?
That's where talent comes into play. HHH does have enough talent to lead a company, him and the DX brand along with Taker, Austin and Foley carried the company. And HHH was a big part of that. HHH gave Vince the courage to pull the trigger and screw Bret, HHH is quoted as saying fuck Bret if he won't do business we do business for him, he was the only one who spoke up in the room, leadership quality. So screw carrying a torch bull crap, he's a leader.
And Rey is in a different way, yeah obviously Rey would get killed by some of these guys, that's why his offense is so unique and it's also why UFC really hurts wrestling. Maybe it's us being biased since being a Hogan fan you like big muscular guys, and I like smaller guys who can go in the ring. But if you're running a wrestling promotion, and wrestling is your number one priority, not skits or comedy, or promos, but in ring action, you don't get better than Mysterio. And you wanna talk longevity, Mexico, ECW, WCW, WWE, he's big wherever he goes. And I'm not going to say if this was back in the 90's or the territory days Rey would be multiple time world champ, but he's good in the sense that you can put the belt on him and have him get the best out of other guys, like HBK did. But I do think the business can't be hurt by putting the belt on him, I think his first run was poorly done, bad booking. Done the right way, if Punk and Jericho can do it, so can Rey. Let's not forget, he's not carrying a company by being champ, there's three brands. And he is so over with both demos no way it'd be a bad idea putting the belt on him.
I'm no Cena fan, and like HHH I don't think he needs the belt to be over, and neither does Rey, but my like or dislike for someone won't make me say don't put the belt on someone. I can understand why Cena as champ is a good business move as much as it is a reward for all the work the crazy asshole does. But I will say putting the IC belt on Rey would make me very happy, it'd be like back in the day where the best wrestlers and workers got the IC and the guys who suck but draw get the world belt. To me that is without question a better move than making him world champ, but being champ on the B show isn't out of the realm of possibility.
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 5, 2008 18:17:08 GMT -5
The fact that Hogan can still pull off a match at his age says plenty about his abilities. But obviously, he trades on his past. Hogan had the ULTIMATE push, but you could say that about anyone who makes it big. You think HHH makes it big without a push. That's what a push is. Hogan lasted so long because his formula worked and revolutionized the sport.
He was a superhero.
Hogan was big well before Andre put him over at WM3. That just cemented it.
Come on now with HHH. The guy was punished for a long time for his role in the MSG incident. As for being a leader, gee, why WOULDN'T he advocate screwing over Bret? It ups his spot. That's an opportunist. And you think Vince needed HHH's blessing to do that?
It's not so much that I think the bigger wrestlers are better. I acknowledge Rey's in ring talents. But he's not just smaller, he's like a dwarf compared to the top guys. HBK was a smaller champion. He was fine. I never had a problem accepting HBK as a champion. After a time, I got tired of his reign and wanted him to job the belt, but I could watch the show, and be ok with him HOLDING the belt. Rey requires WAY too much suspension of disbelief.
Same with Jericho. He's also not one of the bigger guys, but he is fine as champion.
And I agree 100 percent that Rey's reign as champ was terrible--not just because of how Rey did, but because of how the booking really cheapened the belt while he had it.
I have no problem with Rey winning matches, but I have a problem with him having the BELT.
I don't think Rey is anywhere close to the level of Cena or HHH though. I hate Cena as champ. But I don't seem to hate him when he doesn't have the belt.
And I agree, an IC run for Rey is fine too. I just think that as the top dog--it doesn't work.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Dec 5, 2008 18:40:49 GMT -5
cause HBK is a bigger star than the Rock
James are you kidding with that statement? HBK definitely has tons more in ring ability but regarding being a star HBK is not even close ........Hogan, Austin and Rock are the Top 3 in WWE the lasat 20 years....Undertaker and HBK can battle for number 4....I give it to Taker with HBK 5.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 5, 2008 19:02:49 GMT -5
Yeah, we already covered this, James. HBK is really lagging towards the second half of the top 10. Cap nailed it, your top 3, folks, are Hogan, Austin, Rock. And I myself would put Taker over HBK, but have no problem with HBK in that spot over him.
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 5, 2008 22:38:50 GMT -5
First off, that was a dig at Rock for never wanting to work for HBK cause he feels he was kept down by Shawn. even though I was at the ppv HBK lost to Side and Rock was booed out of the garden, survivor series 96. While HBK was one top Rock was never big enough where HBK should do the job. So I made a favorable HBK joke seeing as Hogan's ego allowed him to job to Rock but not HBK, cause we all know Hogan won't job to guys better tha him, tee hee hee.
But if you wanna get into it, as draws, yeah I agree. 1)Hogan 2)Austin 3)Rock.
But as for workers, in ring guys, I don't see how HBK isn't top 5. And sorry, having a guy who can only draw fans and work shit matches isn't as important as a guy who can not only be a hard worker, but make lesser guys look better. My problem is how hogan is touted as such a great leader for a company, he isn't. He works bad matches cause he's limited and one dimensional. He keeps better workers down, and yeah every champ is guilty of that, and I won't sit here and say HBK was always willing to do the job, but there's a difference between hurting the product and hurting you character. Shawn not wanting to drop any titles never hurt business, it hurt him as a pro. Hogan doesn't care as long as his ego isn't hurt, and HBK isn't about himself as much anymore, although I will admit he should be taking more jobs of the high profile variety, not jobbing to Morrison on Raw only to beat him on the PPV. He's a full time guy who betters the overall show by being out there, something hogan has never done. He betters himself not the company.
So as far as wrestlers go, it goes: 1)Flair 2)HBK 3)Steamboat(he was never a major world champ, but was always in big matches and always delivered) If you want, guys like Dusty, Taker, there are so many better workers and leaders than Hogan. I won't say HBK is the best but please don't act like Hogan was an all around pro and did it perfectly.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Dec 6, 2008 15:44:41 GMT -5
James you are right..Stars and Workers are 2 different things and I agree with both your lists.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 6, 2008 18:07:34 GMT -5
Not sure if you guys had heard about this, but Flair and Hogan are working together in some fashion, as they are appearing in and around the same Indy match tonight in the Carolinas. In a HIGH SCHOOL, no less. A Highspots production.
David and Reid Flair are taking on The Nasty Boys. Ric is in the corner for his sons, and Hulk Hogan is the ref! Holy Hell.
All other kinds of luminaries are on the card, including a tilt between The Rock and Roll Express and The Midnight Express (first time they went at it in 18 years!)
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Post by thecaptain15 on Dec 6, 2008 18:46:52 GMT -5
Yeah I saw that a week or so ago..Flair should have stuck with Vince and collect some checks so he could do some more Legends roundtables..same with Foley...
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 6, 2008 20:45:40 GMT -5
I will say this--I hated the ending of Hogan's show. It sucked.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 6, 2008 22:46:59 GMT -5
Have not seen it yet, but I read a spoiler that the winner would be a downer for most and figured it out. Probably should have seen it coming a mile away.
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