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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 8:59:12 GMT -5
Is ECW the money maker, or would any WWE product in that timeslot make money?
Again, they are contracted to show ECW, not Smackdown II, or a best-of show, or anything like that. Spike is so thrilled with the numbers they are putting out there that they are already trying to extend the contract which goes on for another year.
We need to stop having this discussion, its beyond old. Another thing - ECW "One Night Stand III" is already locked up for this coming June, so even that continues. ECW is NOT going anywhere and we are wasting time talking about this over and over.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 9:00:10 GMT -5
He doesn't fit the bill for an indestructible challenger. Kahli does. But Umaga is just a lardass. He just doesn't work. Not to mention, he's still Jamal.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Jan 29, 2007 9:00:18 GMT -5
Tom agree it becomes more apparent that Vince just used the ECW name so he would know he would have an intial built in audience/rating for the new show on SciFi and now that he secured the TV contract extension he is discarding anything remotely associated to the old ECW and turning it into Heat/Velocity/OVW/Deep South etc.....
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Post by thecaptain15 on Jan 29, 2007 9:03:15 GMT -5
Balls I agree they are building Kahli into that as well.....Though even the Samoan /Asiatic spike is even too difficult a wrestling move for Kahli to pull off... ;D
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 9:08:01 GMT -5
Khali did look good in the Rumble, though. That was a case of him being used correctly.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Jan 29, 2007 9:13:38 GMT -5
Tom it was funny though you knew his elimination was coming as you saw him fumbling in trying to set himself up on the ropes way in advance in order to get knocked over...
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 9:21:44 GMT -5
Khali is a terrible wrestler, but at least he can sell the indestructible monster thing. I didn't think he looked all that great in the Rumble though. All he really did is headbutt a few guys. He's another version of El Gigante, minus the bodysuit.
Still, he's a much better choice for the indestructible challenger than Thumbo.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 9:24:54 GMT -5
I never said he was a good wrestler, Balls. I said he was used right last night, as the indestructable monster.
Speaking of crap wrestlers, your buddy Chris Masters was a joke last night. The wrestling sites are lining up to laugh at his expense as RVD kicked him last night, and Masters stood there for like 3 seconds deciding wether or not it was his turn to leave before jumping over the top rope to the floor. Good job, dick!
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 9:30:43 GMT -5
Don't disrespect a future WWE HOFer in Chris Masters. All Khali did was headbutt a few guys. Hell, I could have done that. And as you know, I am an indestructible monster.
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 10:08:38 GMT -5
I don't get the ripping of Umaga. He is pretty good. I mean, he's not the Dynamite Kid but he's not supposed to be the Dynamite Kid. In the context of the way he's pushed and presented, it's enjoyable. Estrada is pretty funny on the mic, so they are one of the few funny spots in the WWE at the moment. Plus, if you get a guy who can sell moves well, it will work even better.
Plus, it's a throwback character. A few years ago you figured gimmicks from the 70's/80's were done for, but they are making a bit of a comeback, and it's a good thing.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 11:13:33 GMT -5
Thumbo is a boring fat Samoan. A dime a dozen. ESTRADA is good on the mic. So increase HIS role. There are some things that shouldn't be throwbacks. Fat boring Samoans fall into that category.
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 11:31:33 GMT -5
But two guys who can't wrestle rehashing the Honky Tonk Man's gimmick should?
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 12:57:56 GMT -5
This isn't the Honky Tonk Man, but either way, the Honky Tonk Man's gimmick was about 1000 times better than the fat Samoan gimmick.
Let's not forget that millions of people paid to hear the Honky Tonk Man sing. Millions of people paid to see the Honky Tonk Man dance. The Honky Tonk Man still is the greatest interncontinental champion of all time.
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 13:47:53 GMT -5
Well, it also helps that Honky Tonk Man was a capable wrestler. Duece and Domino are God awful.
I'm merely stating that when Umaga hits the ring, I'm expecting some good power moves, hopefully sold well, and some good old island savage wrestler action. If you put things in that perspective, the matches become enjoyable.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 15:57:22 GMT -5
The word isn't out on Deuce & Domino. I want to hear their song in its entirety.
Either way, they are more entertaining than Thumbo.
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 15:59:04 GMT -5
So far. If they keep up with the "What you lookin at? Thats my girl/sista!" gag it will grow old.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 16:05:08 GMT -5
Its been two weeks, and its already getting old.
In OVW, where they have been doing this for THREE YEARS, they really ran it into the ground, from ALL accounts.
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Post by sancho231 on Jan 29, 2007 16:10:24 GMT -5
Rumble last night was pretty good. MNM/ hardys was a solid opener. Lashley vs test was malarky filler.Bastita vs Kennedy was ok Bastita got fuckin lazy though. Cena vs Umaga was Fan -fucking- tastic.babyface champ pulling out all the stops to take down the Samoan Monster heel, fuckin great every spot in the match made sense and bult up DRAMA. the camra shot at the end where cena is choking Umaga while wearing the crimson mask, as umaga is ready to pass out., that was fuckin classic Easily one of Cenas better matches. as for the Rumble match it self i liked it nothing too great not the best ever but it was a good one. i was a bit pissed sandman got tossed so early but i called his enitreRumble spot i thought he should have just drank like 6 beers in the crowd while the y guys fright in the ring. Sabu getting choke slammed through the table and not being able to self eliminate his self makes me sad.i personally liked Kahlil's rumble debut his move set is so fucking goofy i get a kick out of it, it reminds me of Giant baba .soft hitting offense tha is sold like death.i guess no one in the arena agreed with me cause when he layed everyone out that building was DEAD.HBK and Takers Mini-match at the end was very good don't think i ve see those 2 in the ring since 99. overall good show glad i ordered it
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 16:25:12 GMT -5
Sancho, I agree with you wholeheartedly on the drama of that Cena/Umaga match. And, poking around online, so do most. Balls, you missed the boat on it again, just cause Umaga does not come out with a guitar, or is not pretending to run for President while wearing a bow tie. Great match that will stand the test of time. Sandman was good in his short spurt. Oddly enough, he has QUIT drinking, which is one reason he is so slim. So it would have been hard for him to "drink 6 beers" out there. He should have lasted longer. Oh, here's something funny - I kind of warmed up for this by watching Rumble 2001 earlier in the day, and Tazz came out and was tossed in FIVE SECONDS by Kane. LOL
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Post by thecaptain15 on Jan 29, 2007 16:43:50 GMT -5
Sancho OT..got your message..what presale were you talking about?
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 17:22:17 GMT -5
Cena v. Umaga was lame. He can't wrestle to save his life, and both HTM and Mr. Backlund could outwrestle Umaga right now, even in their 50s.
That match is already forgotten. 10 years from now, no one will remember Umaga. Well, maybe Tom will, when he watches an Umaga match with a beer the day he dies.
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Post by globix on Jan 29, 2007 17:39:47 GMT -5
Yeah, Jim Ross really has lost his fastball, so to speak, eh? For crying out loud, it's a scripted show, and he doesn't know what he's talking about half the time.
Oh yeah, enough with the Rumble winner going to Wrestlemania. Every year there are just 2, maybe 3 guys that have a shot at winning the Rumble. Make it a title shot on Raw or SD, and then give it to someone unexpected
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Post by Ms. Jericho on Jan 29, 2007 21:30:00 GMT -5
I thought Cena vs. Umaga was a good match. I enjoyed the Rumble as well. And although Taker should probably hang it up, I still like him. The Test match was LAME. And I'm upset that Mr. Kennedy lost.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 21:50:13 GMT -5
KENN-EDY!!!!
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 30, 2007 8:31:16 GMT -5
LOL @ Lashley defending against Test AGAIN on ECW tv this week.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Feb 1, 2007 9:18:01 GMT -5
I am hoping him rolling and kicking him out of the ring after it was over like he was taking out the trash signals the end of this "feud".
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Post by thecaptain15 on Feb 1, 2007 9:18:54 GMT -5
Balls we yet agree for a second time..I too was disappointed that the man who hails from Green Bay WI.......lost..I am hoping he gets the strap after Undertaker takes it from Batista at WM....
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Post by Ms. Jericho on Feb 1, 2007 19:24:55 GMT -5
Ahem... excuse me, that's MIIIIISTEEEEEERRRRRR KENNEDY!!!.....(wait for it)....KENN-EDY!!"
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 1, 2007 19:55:00 GMT -5
Mr. Kennedy rules.
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Post by sancho231 on Feb 1, 2007 23:07:16 GMT -5
FUCK that guy. i aint diggin kennedy. I can deal with a cocky heel, but doing your own ring announcing?you gotta really suck to steal a Road dogg gimmick.I just dont get him. his offense and sellin is decent enough that finisher has gotta go he s gonna kill someone with that
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