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Post by cactusjames on Oct 16, 2006 10:42:45 GMT -5
She should get a CAT scan, her head needs to be examined. I'd move away from there after the lamp post, then a plane goes through her window, just leave.
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Post by 9 on Oct 16, 2006 11:03:59 GMT -5
But don't you see? If she leaves, the terrorists have won!
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 16, 2006 11:11:42 GMT -5
This is more insurance than personal injury. And I look forward to her next disaster.
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Post by cactusjames on Oct 16, 2006 11:15:03 GMT -5
yeah what else can happen to her? A float/blimp, a plane, is her car going to try and eat her or something? Maybe it will be a bus that crashes into her building.
Or maybe it's the building itself, like in Ghostbusters!!!
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Post by Chris on Oct 16, 2006 14:16:19 GMT -5
Some doofus posted on a message board that my girlfriend visits, something to the effect of:
"If you look at 10/11/06 (the day Cory Lidle crashed) upside down, it's 09/11/01. Pretty eerie"
Moron! What's so eerie about 90/11/01.
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Post by donfrancis on Oct 16, 2006 14:23:27 GMT -5
U GUYS KNOW IM NOT AT NY1 ANYMORE RIGHT? I DID POST THE RUMOR THAT IT WAS LIDLE ON 39 WHEN I FIRST HEARD IT. CRAZY FN STORY
OH AND IF CORY LIDLE HAD TURNED RIGHT INSTEAD OF LEFT, HE WOULD HAVE HIT MY NEW APARTMENT BUILDING.
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Post by elliejay21 on Oct 16, 2006 15:10:42 GMT -5
James, your arguement that Cory Lidle should not have been flying small aircraft because "he makes millions of dollars to play a sport and it's irresponsible;" is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I can understand the dad angle, but what makes a BASEBALL PLAYER's life more valuable than a shoe salesman, a doctor or a telephone repairman???
I'd also be curious about the percentage of people who die from other dangerous hobbies (i.e. auto racing, riding motorcycles, mountain climbing, SCUBA diving, extreme fighting, hunting, volunteer fire fighting, etc.) compared to flying small planes. Should all of these people be banned from enjoying their hobbies, if they become parents???
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 16, 2006 15:50:01 GMT -5
Well, you do have a bigger responsibility to your children to not risk your life doing stupid shit.
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Post by 9 on Oct 16, 2006 15:52:07 GMT -5
Laura, I fucking tried. DF, where are you working now?
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Post by cactusjames on Oct 16, 2006 16:56:11 GMT -5
The reason why I think it's stupid, and I've said this 90 fucking times, 91 now, the Yankees or any team has a vested interest in that person. It's not so much they get paid millions as to WHY they get paid millions. If other people make a living based off a service one person provides, to take a chance like Lidle did, for an EXTREME hobby, is EXTREMLY irresponsible and fucking retarded. Sorry you didn't catch that on page two or three when I explained my opinion on the matter the first time.
And like Balls said, the biggest responsiblilty is to his kid. To me, if I want to fly a plane I'm more likely to do it now when I offer nothing to anyone opposed to when I'm supporting a family. What purpose does it serve, he wasn't a commercial pilot, why fly? It's fun? Yeah, it's fun an exciting till you're going down and realize you're never gong to see anyone again and think what a stupid idea this was.
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Post by elliejay21 on Oct 16, 2006 17:46:59 GMT -5
First of all, flying is NOT an "extreme" hobby. In the past 30 some odd years, there have been THREE small plane crashes resulting in a famous person's death. There have been quite a few more celebrity deaths from other types of accidents. The last small plane crash in NYC resulting in a death was 1984. Flying a small plane is NOT exactly a game of russian roulette!
If employers want to add clauses in their employment contracts about what their people can do off company time, that is going to be taken to the courts by any employee who functions as more than livestock, because these clauses (a) assume that the individual is loses value without a completely perfectly funtioning body and (b) are a complete invation of personal liberties, unless you have already established the first part.
Cory Lidle played a game. He was an overpaid fixture in the entertainment world, he was NOT in a service industry. He touched millions of people, and he will be missed, BUT IN HIS JOB, HE DID NOT PROVIDE A SERVICE TO ANYONE.
Why fly? BECAUSE YOU CAN AFFORD TO DO SOMETHING YOU ENJOY. ONE famous guy fell off a horse and was paralyzed. He and his family were devestated and he subsequently died at too young an age. This was tragic, but are you going to say that horseback riding is an "extreme hobby," and that anyone who makes millions in the entertainment industry or who has kids is "extremely irresponsible and retarded" if they ride a horse???
You are just jealous that these people have the time, money and motivation to indulge a hobby other than downing Heineken's, which, by the way, is HORRIBLY irresponsible. Exponentially more people die from alcohol related deaths than in small planes.
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Post by 9 on Oct 16, 2006 18:38:58 GMT -5
And Heineken SUCKS.
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 16, 2006 21:31:24 GMT -5
The risk of flying a plane is far greater than the risk of a commercial pilot flying you to your destination. Lidle was a fool and cost his kid a father for doing what he did.
That's great that Lidle could afford to fly. I wonder if he took his money with him.
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Post by cactusjames on Oct 16, 2006 22:42:33 GMT -5
"BUT IN HIS JOB, HE DID NOT PROVIDE A SERVICE TO ANYONE"
So what were the Yankees paying him, or anyone for? Yes, he plays a game, but that game is his job, no matter what athlete wants to say this doesn't feel like work, that's great, but it's a job. They train and work hard(well some unless proven otherwise) to contribute to a team. There is an owner for every team, he does not pay them to look nice in their uniforms.
As for your other rant of mindless dribble, there is no jealousy involved. How that's even relevant is beyond me. You're making up facts to try and talk down and act self richeous like you offer anything to anyone. You act like drinking beers is a rariety, especailly amongst people on this board. you also assume and pretend that is all I do. You make up facts to support some false attacks to help heighten your low self esteem. The only thing you're right about is that I have no motivation to fly my own plane. When I go on vacation I'll thank the experienced pilot for getting me to my destination safely. So yeah, I have no desire to learn how to fly my own plane, looks like Lide was goof for something.
Now make like an ostrich and burry your head im some sand, Don't waste my readint time with elementary schoolyard malarky.
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Post by BigAl115 on Oct 17, 2006 11:04:46 GMT -5
The risk of flying a plane is far greater than the risk of a commercial pilot flying you to your destination. Lidle was a fool and cost his kid a father for doing what he did. That's great that Lidle could afford to fly. I wonder if he took his money with him. Dude you are out of your mind ...Statistically flying your own plane is safer then driving your own car...granted he was one of the people that was on the wrong side of the statistic ...I would hardly call him a fool for doing something he greatly enjoyed and that he felt was very safe ...now if he had let his 7 yr old fly the plane across the country like the idiot parents did a few years back ..They were fools..He was with an expirienced instructor and was doing a routine manouver (that didn't work out) shit happens... CJ please try to explain the logic that being a BASEBALL player has any greater importance then being a mechanic at a garage ...The Yankees have been around long before him and will be along long after him ...I'll even though Jeter into the mix ...If it was him in the plane ...as tragic as it would be to he fans ..the team would go on....Dude the play sports for a living ...
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 17, 2006 11:25:44 GMT -5
I don't by that for a second. Statistically speaking, you have a fender bender, you walk away. Millions of people drive cars everyday. Far fewer people fly their own planes. And clearly, what he was doing was not safe, as the fact that he slammed into a building shows.
He was with an instructor who had very little experience in the area. The move wasn't routine. It was complicated. Nice victory lap he did. He's a fool.
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Post by Chris on Oct 17, 2006 11:32:07 GMT -5
Not buying into the whole "Lidle was an idiot" thing one bit. Well, he was an idiot, but not because he wanted to fly planes...just listen to his Mike And The Mad Dog interview to hear how much of an idiot he really was. But...what's this? "In the past 30 some odd years, there have been THREE small plane crashes resulting in a famous person's death" Cory Lidle Thurman Munson Stevie Ray Vaughn Payne Stewart JFK Jr. John Denver The founder of Wal Mart MO. Governor Mel Carnahan who still won the senate election post-mortem. Ricky Nelson Aliya (sp?) Randy Rhodes Ronnie Vanzant
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Post by BigAl115 on Oct 17, 2006 11:32:08 GMT -5
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Post by cactusjames on Oct 17, 2006 11:35:51 GMT -5
The instructor had only flown once in NY, it's not like he had it all mapped out, they were sight seeing. If you go on vacation to a city you've never been before, and rent a car you're not going to know where everything is and where to make turns etc. And to be flying at the altitude they were at begs the question did they really know what they were doing?
And yes you're right, the turn was a routine one, but a badly timed move because, from what I read, any true experienced pilot would not have made that move when he did. The buildings are too close to make a turn the way he did. If you're driving a boat and make a turn right into a bunch of big ass rocks and fuck up the boat, do you say "Hey I knew what I was doing, it just didn't work out, I swear it was routine. Shit happens" or is it more like "if I had really known what I was doing in this area and would have taken into account my surroundings before making the move maybe I wouldn't have crashed?.
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 17, 2006 11:44:45 GMT -5
The only foolish thing is using data from commercial airlines to prove that flying a small plane by yourself is safe.
Had Lidle flown on a commercial airline, the article would be relevant.
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Post by BigAl115 on Oct 17, 2006 11:56:36 GMT -5
it gooe for all flying ..that was just the number one article on the page
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 17, 2006 12:00:14 GMT -5
I didn't see anything that included small planes specifically and separately. Not to mention, I didn't see anything that accounts for inexperienced pilots and instructors.
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Post by BigAl115 on Oct 17, 2006 12:02:57 GMT -5
Ill look for small plane stats ....or anything more specific
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 17, 2006 12:06:41 GMT -5
The link came up empty. Is there a typo?
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Post by BigAl115 on Oct 17, 2006 12:10:13 GMT -5
yeah it was general avaition stats again.....
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Post by Chris on Oct 17, 2006 12:22:55 GMT -5
Can we change this to the "Let's Argue About Obvious Things Thread?" What seems to be going back and forth is experience vs inexperience. Whether or not a flight is commercial has no bearing since CLEARLY no inexperienced pilots are piloting commercial flights. What an insane thing to argue. Cory Lidle was an inexperienced pilot. Thurman Munson was an inexperienced pilot. JFK Jr. was a highly inexperienced pilot. None of them are idiots, at least not for flying. They fell victim to inexperience. Are inexperienced pilots more apt to crash than experienced pilots....ummmmmmm.....YA THINK? ? Guess what, inexperienced drivers probably crash their cars a hell of a lot more than experienced drivers.
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 17, 2006 12:38:19 GMT -5
All of them were idiots for flying in the first place when they didn't need to. And all of them are dead because they wanted to fly a small plane like fools.
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Post by Chris on Oct 17, 2006 13:06:11 GMT -5
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 17, 2006 13:24:51 GMT -5
A slightly better pilot. But shit happens to test pilot's too. Look at what happened to the guy under my screenname.
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Post by Chris on Oct 17, 2006 13:36:36 GMT -5
It was probably the best thing that ever happened to Steve Austin, A Man Barely Alive.
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