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Post by Domi on Nov 5, 2007 15:30:29 GMT -5
It's funny how much clout Joe Torre carries outside the realm of Yankee fans. You talk to die-hard Dodger fans and they are all on board with this being the big move that is going to put them over the top. I keep telling them - if THIS is you're big move, don't expect too much. That's funny, 'cause my boss, a big Dodgers fan, has been bitching for the past week that they don't need a new manager, they need a cleanup hitter who can hit more than 20 HRs.
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Post by IronHorse4 on Nov 5, 2007 15:39:37 GMT -5
And all I keep hearing is that for as big a story this is in New York, it's almost a non-story in L.A.
I'm not out there, obviously, and Cho is. But that's what I'm reading in the papers.
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Post by Chris on Nov 5, 2007 16:58:24 GMT -5
When the Lakers are in action, EVERYTHING is a secondary story. Local papers and radio are ALL OVER "Kobe Watch 2007/08" right now.
But this is getting a lot of run here on local sports talk, and fans, from the callers I've heard, have overwhelmingly bought into the idea that Torre is the solution.
These fans out here are under the impression that the only problem the Dodgers had last year was a clubhouse that wasn't a cohesive unit.
I'm with your Boss, Domi. The Dodgers have always been at the worst, OK with pitching, but have long needed a power threat.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Nov 5, 2007 22:18:32 GMT -5
From a poster on the NY Radio Message Board, talking about how here in NY they are glomming over this, and LA could probably care less.
In terms of big sports stories and events, there are few people whom I would rather listen to than Mike and the Mad Dog. Unfortunately, I am not a baseball fan and it seems they open the show the overwhelming majority of times with baseball whether it is deserving or not. Today was an example...one of the biggest regular season games in recent years on the NFL yesterday and instead of opening about that they spend 45 minutes doing a live feed into Joe Torre's introductory news conference for the Dodgers. I don't even think they led off LA based sportstalk with Torre's hiring. Does anything of interest or relevance ever come from these introductory conferences? Why take 45 minutes to present this for a coach going to a team on the West Cost? Even the week of Torre's leaving the Yanks they led off the show 4 times during the week repeating the same topic ad nausem.
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Post by whalerfan on Nov 10, 2007 2:47:27 GMT -5
Donnie Baseball will wear No. 8 for the Dodgers in honor of Yogi.
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Post by Jackass on Nov 11, 2007 10:10:23 GMT -5
For a while, I thought that Dodger ownership had made a master stroke by hiring Torre, simply from a marketing standpoint.
Even if it is a wash in terms of skill (Torre vs Little), my feeling was that by hiring Torre, McCourt had regained all of the baseball buzz in the LA / SoCal area that had been taken for the past three or so years that Atre Moreno had been pushing the Angels as LA's team.
That feeling was based on how Torre was percieved out here on the East Coast. After listening to LA sports radio (I listen to a few LA stations on line at work), and reading the LA papers (the Tims and the Daily Breeze), I think my initial assesment is wrong.
I've concluded that LA doesn't really give a shit about Torre for Torre's sake, and if anything, they feel like it's another indication that it is a franchise still in turmoil.
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Post by Chris on Sept 25, 2008 18:18:28 GMT -5
On 11/05/2007, I wrote: It's funny how much clout Joe Torre carries outside the realm of Yankee fans. You talk to die-hard Dodger fans and they are all on board with this being the big move that is going to put them over the top. I keep telling them - if THIS is you're big move, don't expect too much.
On 9/25/08, I write: Joe Torre has just clinched his 8th division title in the 2000s.
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 25, 2008 18:53:32 GMT -5
The only difference is that this time, he owes it to geography, not team talent.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 25, 2008 19:17:59 GMT -5
Sour grapes.
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Post by 9 on Sept 25, 2008 20:47:22 GMT -5
Vasco de Ballzaro starts with the geography argument again.
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Post by Chris on Sept 25, 2008 21:05:52 GMT -5
"he owes it to geography, not team talent"
Apparently his team was more talented than any other team in the NL West....that or maybe Torre coached them to enough wins to put them over the top. Methinks the latter is hogwash.
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 26, 2008 6:19:17 GMT -5
Dude--The 2008 Ali Ramirez Tournament champion 516ers have more talent than any team in the NL West.
And Nettles, the geography argument isn't that difficult. If the Dodgers played in Brooklyn, and everything else was exactly the same, they would not be in the playoffs.
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Post by 9 on Sept 26, 2008 10:22:00 GMT -5
Actually, they would, because they'd have more income if they were in Brooklyn, which would lead to a higher payroll. And everyone knows the team with the highest payroll always comes out on top in the end.
Um, hold on a minute ...
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 26, 2008 11:41:32 GMT -5
They wouldn't have more income in Brooklyn than they would do in LA. Money is not an issue with the Dodgers. But that said, they are only in the playoffs because of where they play, not how good they are--a stupid flaw in the playoffs that has existed for nearly 40 years.
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Post by whalerfan on Sept 26, 2008 12:38:34 GMT -5
A Red Sox-Dodgers WS would sure be interesting, but I don't think LA will make it. I wonder what Mattingly's next step is going to be. He has gotten good reviews from his short time with LA - namely for his work with Casey Blake. Does he wait out Torre's tenure in LA and hope to get that job like he did here or throw his name out for less desireable one that may be available like a Seattle? I don't really see many firings taking place this offseason.
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Post by Chris on Sept 26, 2008 12:53:40 GMT -5
I see a stint in pinstripes (as manager) in his future.
Girardi's days are numbered. Just because Smokin Hank said he'll be back next season doesn't mean he can't get fired mid-season.
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Post by Chris on Mar 10, 2009 1:29:33 GMT -5
Good to see that Jason Schmidt signing is working out well for the Dodgers.
2IP, 2H, 3ER, 2K, 3BB
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Post by $heriff Tom on Mar 10, 2009 7:53:55 GMT -5
Hows that Joba Chamberlain thing working out for the Yankees again?
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Post by Lindsey on Mar 10, 2009 8:10:52 GMT -5
He's cute!
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Post by MSBNYY on Mar 10, 2009 8:39:58 GMT -5
That Joba Chamberlain thing is working out quite well for those who have watched the team since 2007. Jason Schmidt? Not too much.
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Post by Chris on Oct 1, 2009 14:13:34 GMT -5
The wife and I went to the Dodgers / Padres game in San Diego last night.
Geez, these clowns just don't want to win.
They've been sitting on a magic number of ONE for DAYS now.
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Post by Chris on Oct 21, 2009 11:41:27 GMT -5
Mattingly is going to be interviewed by the Indians, apparently?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Oct 21, 2009 15:17:08 GMT -5
And hes also in consideration for the Washington Nationals job. As he put it, if you are given an opportunity, jump to it. I wish him luck. I would enjoy seeing him managing somewhere, especially in Washington. The team is young, the pressure is low, and I like the team.
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Post by 9 on Oct 21, 2009 20:08:07 GMT -5
I don't think the Nationals would be that bad of a situation, either.
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Post by sean on Oct 21, 2009 21:38:49 GMT -5
I'd love it if he managed the Nats. The Idians would be tough to root for being an AL team and all. But I could totally get on board as a Nats fan, not posing any threat to the Yanks
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 22, 2009 5:53:18 GMT -5
And if he does a good job over there, then it would be an audition for the Yankees job eventually (not that Girardi is going anywhere).
If he does a shit job, then it'll never happen.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Oct 22, 2009 6:58:40 GMT -5
Well, lets not go and hand him one of these jobs already. It may be pie in the sky, about 10 others are in line for the Indians job, and even more for the Nats job, in regards to how many they plan to interview. And both clubs are wary that he has never managed before on any level. Odds are he is not getting either job.
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 22, 2009 9:31:03 GMT -5
I would think at minimum, there could be a minor league managing job if he wants it. That at least would give him some experience MANAGING.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Oct 22, 2009 10:31:29 GMT -5
From what I heard many think Mattingly is just posturing because he wants a commitment from the Dodgers to be the manager after Torre leaves and that is the job he really wants....
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 22, 2009 13:34:30 GMT -5
Why would the Dodgers care about that? The same issue follows him--he's never managed. What's the worst that can happen? They get another hitting coach?
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