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Post by grover on Dec 31, 2008 15:08:03 GMT -5
To shore up some points before: The only difference between addictive drugs doctors give you and ones you get on the street is that doctors give you the proper dosage in order to not get addicted. Still, some do, because their brain was wired to give into dependencies more, or as you like to call it, being a loser.
Ball's loser list:
Cho
Larry
Jackass
If I ever go into therapy for my high anxiety and sever depression can I be put on the loser list somehow?
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Post by Chris on Dec 31, 2008 15:13:27 GMT -5
"And the idea that just because you're rich, you're not a loser if you enter rehab is ridiculous"
And the idea that any teacher ever gave you credit for having reading comprehension skills is ridiculous, as you have, in this thread and many others, cherry-picked snippets out of what I and others have said and presented that totally out of context in relation to the entirety of what our intended points were.
I never gave anyone a pass for actions done while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, I've hammered the point that accountability is paramount to productive sobriety, yet you've spin doctored shit and accused me of saying pretty much the opposite of what I said.
I made painstaking efforts to point out that one's wallet is not the reason for commendability, but rather their tremendous contributions to society in during the course of their recovery....but you've completely ignored my points and harped on the fact that I pointed out their financial successes.
Quit being a fucking dick....and respond to people's posts accurately....dick.
You went from being ignorant in this post (which you still clearly are) to being a fucking cocksucker!
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Post by grover on Dec 31, 2008 15:19:01 GMT -5
You're being a tremendous dick, Balls, and you are pretty much calling cho a loser. You're all over the map. Everyone's a loser then it's only celebs now it's everyone again.
You also never acknowledged my point that drugs and booze and cigarettes make pop culture/music better, and that all the greatest creative minds were drunks and druggies.
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 31, 2008 15:37:41 GMT -5
Just because some writers are druggies doesn't mean all writers are druggies. And I'm not going to pat someone on the back for getting himself in a bad position in the first place.
You can call me a dick all you want. It doesn't change that these problems are your own. This all started because Chyna is a complete loser, and Cho defended her. Sorry if that hits a nerve, but tough shit.
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Post by grover on Dec 31, 2008 15:57:04 GMT -5
Then call Cho a loser. You said in this thread that anyone who takes drugs is a loser. Call me and jame and Cho and Jackass and Larry and Tom losers.
Do it, faggot.
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Post by Chris on Dec 31, 2008 16:01:48 GMT -5
Ahh, yet another BLATANT misrepresentation of others' posts, courtesy of Ballzaro. I defended Chyna? No ass. I said she wasn't a loser. I never defender her and I have repeated no less that 10 times in this thread that alcoholics and addicts especially need to be held and self-accountable for all of their actions, good and bad, under and out of the influence of substances. It is the cornerstone of constructive recovery. But keep saying that I said what I didn't say, dick!
The thing that is aggravating here is that Tom does a pretty consistent job at calling out members of this board when they are being douches in threads by not replying to other people's posts in a meaningful way that indicates one took the time to read and try to understand the posts prior. Tom usually AT LEAST throws out an obligatory "cut the crap" comment or something.
But what Balls is doing here, and does frequently, is he totally dismisses the bulk of one's post, picks out one sentence if you're lucky (it's usually a handful of words at most) and tries to rip you apart based on his totally bastardized misconstrued recap of your post. He's doing that here...and he does it purposely: A) to be a fucking prick for nothing other than being a prick (no wonder no one wants to give you any pussy). B) because if he ever took the time to, as any skilled debater does, consider the counterpoint in it's entirety, his stupid fucking Balls-v-World concepts would be shredded.
What's the fun for us posting here with him if he is not going to give our posts the consideration that he expects his to recieve...and what's the fun for him to post if the dialog he spews isn't truly representative of our thoughts. That's kinda fucked up, and I'm not sure why Tom gives Balls a pass here.
This is the very reason that guys like Larry, Jackass, Domi and other valuable contributers just flat out bail on this site.
Quit being a dick Balls. You can participate on YOUR board without being an asshole and outright fabricating points and counterpoints on behalf of us. You don't have to agree with EVERYONE ELSE in this thread, but you don't have to be a cock and create fake points that don't even relay our points just so it's easier for you to rebuke. Fucking WEAK!
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 31, 2008 17:22:51 GMT -5
Ok, once again, the whining is getting old. There are no fake points here. The only weakness comes from the people that put themselves in these positions in the first place.
It's obvious we're going in circles now.
You're not going to change my mind. Chyna is a complete and utter loser for letting herself get addicted to her substance of the week. You calling me every name under the sun won't change that. You can cry about me some more. This thread's run its course.
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Post by Chris on Dec 31, 2008 17:37:59 GMT -5
So has your shtick.
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Post by cactusjames on Jan 2, 2009 13:10:13 GMT -5
the only weakness on this board is Balls. He's a cancer, and I wouldn't be shocked by this time in 2010 it'll be Tom, Dana, Balls and Laura still posting. If the roles were reversed and I was arguing Balls point, I would have been told to shut up and stop being immature. But Balls is a mod so he can say whatever the fuck he wants. And there hasn't been any whining, just you sticking your fingers in your ears going la la la la I'm MSB I'm always right.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 2, 2009 13:23:11 GMT -5
Fuck off.
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Post by Chris on Jan 6, 2009 13:21:47 GMT -5
This is why Balls is full of shit, and knows not what he speaks of.
This is the opinion and findings of an M.D. .... and this is not a result of Balls' so-called modern "sugar-coated society." This is highly respected medical doctor from the era of the Great Depression, when society was about as hard-scrabbled as it gets.
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The doctor's theory that we have an allergy to alcohol interests us. As a laymen, our opinion as to its soundness may, of course, mean little. But as ex-problem drinkers, we can say that his explanation makes good sense. It explains many things for which we cannot otherwise account.
Though we work out our solution on the spiritual as well as an altruistic plane, we favor hospitalization for the alcoholic who is very jittery or befogged. More often than not, it is imperative that a man's brain be cleared before he is approached, as he has then a better chance of understanding and accepting what we have to offer.
ALLERGY: Allergy is a disorder of the immune system often also referred to as atopy. Allergic reactions occur to environmental substances; an exaggerated or inappropriate immune response initiated by exposures to antigens such as mold spores, pollen, or certain drugs and foods; an inappropriate response by the immune system to a normally harmless substance; Inappropriate or exaggerated reaction of the immune system to substances that, in the majority of people, cause no symptoms.
The subject presented in this book seems to me to be of paramount importance to those afflicted with alcoholic addiction. I say this after many years' experience as Medical Director of one of the oldest hospitals in the country treating alcoholic and drug addiction......
......We doctors have realized for a long time that some form of moral psychology was of urgent importance to alcoholics, but its application presented difficulties beyond our conception. What with our ultra-modern standards, our scientific approach to everything, we are perhaps not well equipped to apply the powers of good that lie outside our synthetic knowledge......
......We believe, and so suggested a few years ago, that the action of alcohol on these chronic alcoholics is a manifestation of an allergy; that the phenomenon of craving is limited to this class and never occurs in the average temperate drinker. These allergic types can never safely use alcohol in any form at all; and once having formed the habit and found they cannot break it......
......Frothy emotional appeal seldom suffices. The message which can interest and hold these alcoholic people must have depth and weight.....
......I do not hold with those who believe that alcoholism is entirely a problem of mental control. I have had many men who had, for example, worked a period of months on some problem or business deal which was to be settled on a certain date, favorably to them. They took a drink a day or so prior to the date, and then the phenomenon of craving at once became paramount to all other interests so that the important appointment was not met. These men were not drinking to escape; they were drinking to overcome a craving beyond their mental control......
On behalf of Bill Wilson, Dr. Bob, Dr. William Duncan Silkworth, and CHYNA.....fuck you Balls! ;D
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 6, 2009 13:38:47 GMT -5
And 4 out of 5 dentists choose Trident. Doesn't change that Chyna is a complete loser who deserves whatever hell she brought upon herself.
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Post by Chris on Jan 6, 2009 13:46:06 GMT -5
I'll take the word of an M.D. over the lawyer on this subject, any day.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 6, 2009 13:48:03 GMT -5
Right because doctors are never full of shit.
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Post by Chris on Jan 6, 2009 13:48:56 GMT -5
No, sometimes they are....but lawyers USUALLY are!
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 6, 2009 14:04:24 GMT -5
Only the drugged out ones.
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Post by cactusjames on Jan 7, 2009 12:21:46 GMT -5
Balls you're a fucking baby. Never, ever again, under any circumstances, call me immature or talk down to me because you're an immature little shit heel. You're a fucking baby with a toy. And as much as I hate saying this, Tom deserves some blame for allowing you to act like a total asshole. With all due respect Tom, you wanted a mature board with adult oriented debates and you put Balls in a spot of power? Balls is literally a 7 year old. I don't want to see little rebuttles that were made by a toddler. The whole I'm right because I say so attitude Balls has is poppicock and if I conducted myself on the board the way Balls has, I'd be kicked off already. It's poppicock and very deflating to come on this board and in every thread Balls is all over the place being a dick. There's no room for intelligent talk because Balls has to have a say in everything. Fuck 39, and if this shit keeps up, fuck this place too. I need a break from this poppicock, add another name to the list of departed posters.
I know this will be deleted by Balls but I don't give a fuck, I'm sick of his shit and I'm happy at the very least he knows he's the reason this board is losing members.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 7, 2009 12:38:31 GMT -5
Fuck off.
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