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Post by mac0822 on May 13, 2009 12:08:42 GMT -5
I hear that....and well...I would be ok with that, BUT....
What about the guys that go in because they've never been caught? It's a tough situation.
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Post by MSBNYY on May 13, 2009 12:27:02 GMT -5
That does suck. But there's not much you can do about people who don't get caught. Usually the users are fairly obvious, with or without a failed piss test.
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Post by thecaptain15 on May 13, 2009 12:31:26 GMT -5
As someone with a law degree, you know "blatantly obvious" is worth shit.
Tom that is not true..that is all that matters in the Court of "Public Opinion"!
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Post by mac0822 on May 13, 2009 12:39:23 GMT -5
Did Griffey do roids? Do we know he didn't?
How bout Thome? Beltran? Pujols?
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Post by MSBNYY on May 13, 2009 13:16:03 GMT -5
What's the evidence on Griffey? He seems like just the average HOFer superduperstar. Unless I'm wrong, other than the era in which he played, is there any reason to believe he's a juicer?
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Post by mac0822 on May 13, 2009 13:55:48 GMT -5
No, Griffey doesn't seem to be a juicer other than the fact he was hurt so much. All these bums say they took it to recover from injuires.
What leads me to think he MAY not have done it, is the fact that his stats have DECLINED as he aged - like guys have always done.
Gotta wonder about Pujols though.
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Post by MSBNYY on May 13, 2009 14:12:17 GMT -5
RIGHT. The whole declining as he got to his 30s is a good sign Griffey was clean. The whole, "I still kick ass at 37" thing is a red flag.
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Post by Jason Giambi on May 13, 2009 21:12:26 GMT -5
maybe griffey stopped awhile ago, that's why he's breaking down.
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Post by MSBNYY on May 14, 2009 5:55:05 GMT -5
No evidence or reason to suspect.
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Post by Lindsey on May 14, 2009 7:34:08 GMT -5
I would honestly be very surprised if Griffey was using. I wouldn't be surprised if he HAD used, but I'd be very intrigued if he was using recently.
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Post by MSBNYY on May 14, 2009 7:42:34 GMT -5
It would be foolish as hell. The guy is at the end of his career. A resurgence would only bring him suspicion. That would lead to him getting caught and ruining the most important thing in his career--his legacy. It's not like he needs the money.
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Post by Jason Giambi on May 14, 2009 13:32:17 GMT -5
that's why he did them years ago, and stopped when his body started breaking down.
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