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Post by thecaptain15 on Nov 15, 2007 9:57:07 GMT -5
If Jackass would have been there we would have won and 2006 would have then been a fun year!!!
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Post by thecaptain15 on Nov 15, 2007 9:57:49 GMT -5
i have no opinion because i will hit anyway you want to do it. i think expanding the strike zone is a horrible idea. thats for sure. arc vs flat, i could care less, i will hit both.
Larry you also left out that you can do it lefty as well as righty!!!!!
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Post by Bad Mouth Larry on Nov 15, 2007 10:23:19 GMT -5
exactly captain. and unlike jorge posada i could hit from both sides of the plate without having to piss on my hands.
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Post by grover on Nov 15, 2007 11:44:11 GMT -5
Kick sand in your face? Holy shit....never figured you for a pussy. Set those bear traps around the apartment....they smell the menstruation. You can shit on this board, and shit on that board, but someone criticizes your comment and HOLY SHIT WAAAAAAAAAAAA LEAVE ME ALONE Phony. Side note: I had forgotten that Dorothy married Frank Drebin. No, I have no problem with you not liking the idea, because it's why I'm bringing it up. I want to know if there is something we can do. If it's a bad idea, I wouldn't mind being told that it is. Hence "hey what do you guys think of this?" I've had other ideas which were shot down, and I'm ok with it. I do not like how you accused me of doing this for personal gain. What's up with that? You of all people should know I'm not about that and should know that what I do for the softball game isn't for personal gain at all, and too accuse me of being a dick and saying I'm trying to bully everyone into my way is horseshit. How am I being a dick and a bully if I'm coming to you guys to plan something out? So, fuck you for that. Have fun watching Evan and other goofs walk to first. Then you and Balls can pump your fists in the air and you can crack open a Coors Light and cheers Balls' fruity flavored Star Trek Water at the fun you're having watching Humpty Dumpty shaped nerds shuffle on over to first because the most exercise they've had is lifting a drumstick to their gob. GOOD TIMES! You can pull out any fucking list of softball malarky you want and you and Balls can walk through the smoke with your gear on like softball champions, there's no way on Earth you can dispute this: Watching fags walk = gay, not fun Watching fags strike out = funny, very fun
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Post by IronHorse4 on Nov 15, 2007 12:19:58 GMT -5
No, fuck you dude. You aren't doing anything different than Balls did when he ran things. He made it a point to run everything through old and new captains (probably even overselling it). He argued his points hard, but he still did everything in conjunction with the captains and such. You seem to be doing the same thing. So pop quiz asshole...why is Balls' way wrong and yours is so great?
Sounds to me like you've got a major fucking pole up your ass lately, and crying about getting picked on seems to be your outlet. Go piss up a rope.
And I "kicked sand in your face," but you calling my ideas gay and Balls' ideas gay is cool? Crybaby.
And I didn't say you were doing anything for personal gain. I alluded to you being a little fucking power hungry. And you are. So eat shit.
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Post by grover on Nov 15, 2007 12:41:37 GMT -5
I'm not arguing a point, I'm asking you guys to acknowledge an idea, which is different from taking it and wiping your ass with it, which you did. You're bringing up doomsday scenarios which may or may not happen, have proven not to be the case because they didn't happen in 06, and even if they did, it would be a good laugh. It's not a terrible idea because it's still in the batter's hands, but it's telling them that camping out won't be tolerated. Seriously, let say we did move the line back a bit, and a few people got caught looking. How is that worse than having them walk? If you're sitting watching the game, you telling me you're going to take more personal enjoyment out of watching some nerd walk to first over seeing them get Ked? malarky, I know you too well for that. You'd be the first one laughing, and I know you're probably picturing Evan striking out at your desk right now and smirking. But again, it's just an idea.
And yeah, I AM doing things differently. I didn't sit on a permit and pop up with it magically the day before everyone was going to put plans in motion to play the game in Long Island. I'm not the one looking to use repeat captains again because I think people like Suzy, Captain and Brownstone aren't good enough because they live in Jersey and they can zip to a practice every day. I'm not the one angling his way onto discussions about the game possibly being played somewhere other than Manhattan and saying that everyone outside of NY claimed they will refuse to play if it's not in Central Park or anywhere else on that island. I also told everyone to forget the ONE bad call Marc made and get him back to umping home, because he's the best man for the job and it sure beats having someone Milton can influence and Tom looking to create a stir by calling something on Balls for a chuckle. So, yeah, I am doing things differently. There's more to this than just getting a permit.
And you're still missing the point that I'm coming to you guys for advice, not implementing a rule. Balls doesn't like it, but kinda warmed up to the possibility. You think its stupid and my maxipad is full, Jackass things everyone is gay, JW thinks the line moving is a bad idea, and I'm not sure about it myself. I'm ok with that. It's why I came to you guys. You didn't need to give me the Hulk Hogan boot. Larry and Mike I expected that from, not from you.
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Post by IronHorse4 on Nov 15, 2007 12:52:19 GMT -5
Yup. You're right. Sorry for jumping down your throat.
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Post by Bad Mouth Larry on Nov 15, 2007 12:53:00 GMT -5
HEY! ive been quiet. why dredge me and mm into your problems.
grover, my problem with what you are trying to achieve, is you will be giving an unfair advantage to pitchers, who could go and use the expansion of a strikezone to their benefit by not throwing true strikes within a legitimate strike zone. this would force hitters to constantly swing at bad pitches for fear of being struck out by malarky pitching.
as far as arc vs flat, what the hell is the difference? if you cant hit a ball twice the size of a baseball coming in between 10-25 mph flat, then you dont deserve to get on base anyway.
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Post by jwmcc on Nov 15, 2007 13:04:00 GMT -5
"JW thinks the line moving is a bad idea, and I'm not sure about it myself. I'm ok with that."
Just to expand on my objection for a minute, the calls that were balls due to the line not being far enough are the "deep" pitches. The calls that I think Grover is alluding to are the ones that dont' arc enough and end up an inch or two around home plate, or "flat". The latter pitches are ones if they get called strikes every once in a while would discourage the ones who "take pitches for stragedy purposes", ie try to walk their way to first.
As for "stragedy", I'm not a pro at this at all, would never make it in any of those big ASA leagues, etc. but I always found that "see the ball, hit the ball" works the best. Jw
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Post by grover on Nov 15, 2007 13:04:15 GMT -5
That is a fair point. It seems like with that and what was said before by Justin and Balls, there might not be anything we can do but cross our fingers that people won't retreat back to faggotry and trying to take a base. Watching people set up camp is pretty queer but what can we do?
Go look at the score cards. In 04 there was 3 walks, and everyone swung the bat. In 05 EVERYONE was looking to walk, and it started a nasty trend, which somewhat popped up again this year, but way stymied last year. Could it be not being so anal about league standards is what made things that way? I'm not sure. That's what I was trying to find out tying to find out.
By the way I talked to Rocky and the game will be played at Heckscher State Park and postgame party is on the beach with some kegs. Captains will be Kenny, Evan, Skinny Dave, and FPY.
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Post by Bad Mouth Larry on Nov 15, 2007 13:07:34 GMT -5
lmfao. no way. at heckscher. thats pretty funny. thats usually where im driving from to get to the game every year! woooo hoooo. cool.
how are those fields, rocky? i never played on em.
i can tell you one thing though. fully expect to fight with the blacks if you expect to use a bbq grill at this event. those damn bbq grills are packed with brothers in the summertime. it really is a sight.
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Post by Jason Giambi on Nov 15, 2007 13:13:01 GMT -5
nice pic of Posada, what website was that on?
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Post by MSBNYY on Nov 15, 2007 13:16:51 GMT -5
Grover--that's exactly it. We just have to cross our fingers and hope people don't retreat into faggotry. I think I only have one walk in the history of the tournament--my first at bat, when Tom walked me on four pitches and I think one of them missed the backstop it was so wide.
I hate people doing that too. I just don't think it was THAT big of a problem. And no one is suggesting that you shouldn't talk out ideas. That's exactly what we HAVE been doing.
In 05, Jackass was stuck on a plane, and that forced Phil to the mound. Phil can throw it over, but if you are looking to walk, and the line isn't deep enough, then you will walk, which is a big reason there were 6 walks on that side. And on the other side, Big Joe just had trouble pitching to Rose. I think the line was too close in 2005. But in 2004 and 2007, it was fine. Moving the line was necessary in 2005 because it was too close. In all the other years, it was drawn fine. But even in 2005, there was only one game with a disproportionate amount of walks. That means 15 out of 16 games didn't have a big walking problem overall.
Hecksher was recently renovated. I haven't played on the new fields, but they have to be pretty nice.
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Post by IronHorse4 on Nov 15, 2007 13:21:45 GMT -5
Wrong Heckscher.
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Post by MSBNYY on Nov 15, 2007 13:22:24 GMT -5
Who is this Hecksher that he gets so many fields named after him?
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Post by Bad Mouth Larry on Nov 15, 2007 13:37:39 GMT -5
nice pic of Posada, what website was that on? not on my website yet. but its mine. if you are on myspace, check out my blog from the kc game on 9/7/07. there are tons of killer yankee shots in there.
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Post by Bad Mouth Larry on Nov 15, 2007 13:39:28 GMT -5
which heckscher? it has to be the one in islip. i dont think the one in huntington has fields.
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Post by IronHorse4 on Nov 15, 2007 13:41:27 GMT -5
He's talking about Islip, I believe, since he mentioned the beach.
Balls is talking about the fields at Central Park.
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Post by Jason Giambi on Nov 15, 2007 13:55:50 GMT -5
nice pic of Posada, what website was that on? not on my website yet. but its mine. if you are on myspace, check out my blog from the kc game on 9/7/07. there are tons of killer yankee shots in there. I wuz breaking your balls..... your work is excellent. Now this year come down for spring training.
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Post by Bad Mouth Larry on Nov 15, 2007 14:02:23 GMT -5
thanks bro. if spring training were still in ft lauderdale id be there every year! maybe this year. maybe.
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Post by grover on Nov 15, 2007 15:27:36 GMT -5
I'm all for moving the game here and there for fun. The thing is one of the best parts about this game is boozing afterwards. I had a fucking blast getting absolutely wrecked and playing darts with Rocky, Justin and Donahue until about...something o'clock in the morning. If we do LI, where do we go after the game? And there is also a big risk of those who don't live on the Island being stuck on the Island drunk off your ass.
We also drew a very nice crowd in Central Park. Even though most were Jews who couldn't use electricity, still it was a nice draw.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Nov 15, 2007 15:41:08 GMT -5
Even though most were Jews who couldn't use electricity, still it was a nice draw. Who says you can't have the occasional ethnic jab or racial humor on Heckle House.....
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Post by MSBNYY on Nov 15, 2007 15:42:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't even call that an ethnic jab. More of a factoid.
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Post by grover on Nov 15, 2007 15:46:02 GMT -5
Hey, it's true. Some of those girls were hot too, even though they were hitched to Mordecai Lookforsaleostien, they might help draw a bigger crowd and/or give the Hewbrews of the group something to look at.
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Post by kingdzbws on Nov 15, 2007 15:49:17 GMT -5
Ehhhh, they all look the same under a sheet with a hole in it.
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Post by kingdzbws on Nov 15, 2007 20:46:48 GMT -5
Is this thing on?
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Post by elliejay21 on Nov 16, 2007 1:53:39 GMT -5
Following Marc's question, I also wondered, as I have wonder before, who was this Heckscher dude? Heckscher State Park From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia • Learn more about citing Wikipedia •Jump to: navigation, search For the nationally historic local park in Huntington, New York, see Heckscher Park (Huntington, New York).
Hecksher State Park is a park on the shore of the Great South Bay at East Islip in Suffolk County, New York, USA. The park was 1,469 acres that was once the 19th century estate of George C. Taylor. Islip's founder, William Nicoll, originally built his estate on this property. The park was donated to the State of New York by the affluent August Heckscher who is believed to have purchased it from the Taylor family.
Heckscher offers a beach, picnic tables with pavilions, a playground and playing fields, recreation programs, hiking and biking, fishing, a campground with tent and trailer sites, cross-country skiing, a boat launch, and a food concession.August Heckscher (1848-1941) Industrialist, Real Estate Developer, & Philanthropist bio: town.huntington.ny.us/permit_pics/207.pdf
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Post by Jackass on Nov 16, 2007 6:07:50 GMT -5
The non Section39 crowd that gathered around the field last summer was hilarious to watch as they watched the games. There were a few couples I saw where the female portion was disgusted and the guy was fascinated. One dope even asked me if it was a company softball game, and I told him it was. I said that we were all with a firm that makes corrogated containers, and that is why our team is called the Boxeaters.
The "Fenway Faggot" chant that erupted as that herb with the Sux shirt on and his boyfriends came walking through was funny as hell, and the Shecklesteins were all having a good laugh at that too.
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Post by grover on Nov 16, 2007 7:38:53 GMT -5
Yeah, that's why keeping it in the city is key. Softball, and then a quick stroll for beer.
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Post by BoxSeatsSuck on Nov 16, 2007 7:46:42 GMT -5
Jackass wasn't he wearing like a Kevin Millar shirt? I remember the shirt he had on was of one player that was no longer a Red Sock.
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