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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 13, 2006 12:14:28 GMT -5
People cant holler at this point. A rule is a rule. Not Jeter's fault. This said, in my eyes, the streak IS over.
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 13, 2006 12:17:33 GMT -5
It gets even better with Jeter. Of course, a rule's a rule, and to me, if I could pick one player today I'd want to see beat the hitting streak, it would be Jeter. But think about this--there aren't even enough games left in the season, which means like Rollins last year, it would carry over. Imagine 2 seasons AND a game like last night. That would be the ultimate cheap record.
I agree that while the rule is the rule, I consider this streak to be over.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 13, 2006 12:22:54 GMT -5
By the way, here is another interesting streak fact that will get you mad. You can carry it over, but it would not count in the history books if the streak is done in two consecutive seasons. If he wants to break some streaks, it has to be done in the body of one season. Thats another fact.
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 13, 2006 12:26:04 GMT -5
That doesn't sound right. I remember when we were talking about Rollins. John said that according to Elias, there are basically 2 distinct categories when it comes to hitting streaks:
1. Overall games 2. Overall games in a single season.
DiMaggio just happens to be the record holder in both categories. I can sort of understand why you'd want to allow carrying it over. It doesn't sit right with me, but at least I can somewhat see the logic. Yet the idea that you can play in a game, walk everytime, and the streak continues, is ridiculous.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 13, 2006 12:28:12 GMT -5
Bottom line the record of note is Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak. It would need to be beaten in the same season to supplant this as the true streak record. This other "overall games" thing is something that would need to be added to the record books. I read a lot more than you on Rollins' run, and saw this repeatedly mentioned. Look it up.
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 13, 2006 12:41:12 GMT -5
I could have sworn that John mentioned 2 distinct records and had Rollins got it, he would have been the record holder, not Joe D.
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Post by jwmcc on Sept 13, 2006 12:43:59 GMT -5
There are two different records, longest consecutive games hitting streak, and longest consecutive game hitting streak in one season. It just happens to be that Joe D has both records at the moment. Jw
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 13, 2006 12:47:10 GMT -5
Not according the record book I am seeing. Again, if its broken over the course of two seasons its something they will invent and put in the books then.
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Post by 9 on Sept 13, 2006 12:48:06 GMT -5
Lesson to be learned: Don't bother starting a hitting streak after game No. 105.
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Post by jwmcc on Sept 13, 2006 12:54:14 GMT -5
Your record book sucks, to put it simply. Jw
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 13, 2006 13:01:17 GMT -5
Tom's record book is lying somewhere near his Farmer's Almanac.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 18, 2006 10:10:17 GMT -5
The Devil Rays fail repeatedly in late-game situations, having lost 54 times after they've been winning (12 more than any other team) and blown a major-league-high 88 leads.
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Post by 9 on Sept 18, 2006 14:59:55 GMT -5
They ain't doing too great in early-game situations and midgame situations, either!
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 19, 2006 10:08:53 GMT -5
Matt Cain leads all National League rookies with 13 wins, 163 strikeouts and a .208 opponents' batting average. With his team pushing for a playoff spot, he has gone 5-0 with an 0.21 ERA over his last six starts.
He's the man.
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Post by 9 on Sept 19, 2006 10:19:13 GMT -5
0.21? That's SICK!
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 22, 2006 12:11:55 GMT -5
Well, he got spanked around this week, so so much for that.
Back to the factoids. Since Ozzie Virgil stepped into the batters box 50 years ago Saturday to become the first Dominican to play Major League baseball, more than 425 Dominican players have played in the majors. An island nation of 9 million, Dominican players make up 11% of big league rosters today, with at least one on every major league roster at this time. This year 9 were All-stars.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Oct 5, 2006 9:38:58 GMT -5
The 2006 Tampa Bay Devil Rays were one of the all-time "homer" teams in pro sports history. They became the first Major League Baseball team to lose at least 100 games (61-101) despite posting a winning record at home. They were 41-40 at Tropicana Field but a miserable 20-61 on the road.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Oct 23, 2006 14:31:01 GMT -5
Including the Tigers Craig Monroe, players with seven surnames of US presidents have hit World Series home runs: James Monroe (Craig), Andrew Jackson (Joe and Reggie), Ulysses S. Grant (Jim), John F. Kennedy (Terry), Andrew/Lyndon Johnson (Lou, 2, and Charles); Gerald Ford (Dan); and Jimmy Carter (Joe, 4, and Gary, 2).
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Post by 9 on Oct 23, 2006 14:54:33 GMT -5
Too bad Homer Bush never got any PT.
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 23, 2006 15:39:06 GMT -5
The key is that they HOMERED. But I think Homer Bush should count because his name is Homer.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Oct 26, 2006 11:03:02 GMT -5
The only other pitcher besides Detroit's Jeremy Bonderman to have lost 19 or more games in a season and later start a World Series game was Steve Carlton, the Hall of Fame left-hander who pitched the 1983 Phillies to a pennant after going 10-19 for the Cardinals in 1970 and 13-20 with the Phils in '73.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Oct 29, 2006 1:40:50 GMT -5
In 1959 Ernie Banks led the Cubs in RBI by a margin of 91. Banks drove in 143 runs; #2 on the team, Bobby Thomson, only drove in 52.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 8, 2007 10:48:41 GMT -5
In 2006, 635 players appeared in at least one major league game as a pitcher. Combined, they batted just .132 on the season.
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 8, 2007 10:54:54 GMT -5
Makes a good case for the NL to adopt the DH. I doubt that's an atypical number.
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Post by jwmcc on Feb 8, 2007 10:57:52 GMT -5
The World Series record for most GIDP in one game is three, set on 10/8/51, Game 4 between the NY Giants and Yankees.
The hitter...Willie Mays.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 8, 2007 11:11:58 GMT -5
Joe Torre set the NL record for most double plays grounded into in a single game, 4, on July 21st, 1975.
He said after the game, "I would like to thank Felix Millan for making all of this possible." Millan batted ahead of Torre in the lineup, singling in all four of his at bats before Torre helped do away with him.
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Post by Chris on Feb 8, 2007 12:37:06 GMT -5
Tone just asked, in an attempt to be insulting, how the "ratings" are here at the hecklehouse....meanwhile the last straight-up baseball post over there came on Feb. 5th.
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Post by 9 on Feb 8, 2007 12:59:21 GMT -5
I'm on the horn with Nielsen right now.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 8, 2007 13:07:16 GMT -5
No matter how hard people try to trash this message board, I could not be happier with it. We actually have DISCUSSION on here, and its a fun group of people. And, after this long, its time for them to GET OVER IT and LET IT GO. Unreal.
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Post by 9 on Feb 8, 2007 13:12:33 GMT -5
And even when we disagree, it stays on topic.
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