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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 8, 2007 13:15:08 GMT -5
It shouldn't be a struggle to talk baseball on a message board of baseball fans. Here, it's not. And we are the official sponsor of the Claudell Washington baseball-reference page.
We actually have DISCUSSION on here, and its a fun group of people. And, after this long, its time for them to GET OVER IT and LET IT GO. Unreal.
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Post by Jason Giambi on Feb 8, 2007 15:26:16 GMT -5
I think it's one individual.
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Post by elliejay21 on Feb 9, 2007 16:44:51 GMT -5
The pitches that Babe Ruth hit for his last-ever homerun and that Joe DiMaggio hit for his first-ever homerun where thrown by the same man, Guy Bush of the Pittsburgh Pirates. Number 714 was the first HR to clear the rightfield grandstand at Forbes Field and some estimated the distance at 600 feet.
I can post this baseball fact here without risk of being called fat or worse, because people actually discuss baseball in baseball threads, rather than huge fonted curses and porn pics in all threads.
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 9, 2007 17:26:08 GMT -5
If it went that far, it sure didn't get an official measurement, because Mantle still has the MLB record at 565.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 4, 2008 13:07:20 GMT -5
Here's some fun A-Rod facts.
In the year after he left Seattle, they won 116 games. In the year after he left the Rangers, they won 89 games - after averaging 90 losses a year the 3 seasons he played with them.
The Yankees had been in the WS in 6 of 8 years before bringing him in, while winning 4. Since then they have not gotten out of the first round.
A-Rod has been on 6 postseason teams, and those teams have been bounced in round one 5 times.
Have a good day!
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Post by $heriff Tom on Apr 9, 2008 17:55:20 GMT -5
Bert Campanaris played in NINE no-hitters.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Apr 11, 2008 18:01:08 GMT -5
Ken Caminiti won the NL MVP in 1996 unanimously getting 28 out of 28 votes, and never got another vote for MVP in any other year of his career.
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Post by rlm6370 on Apr 12, 2008 11:02:37 GMT -5
Ted Williams, Lou Gehrig, and Chuck Klein are the only players since the establishment of the MVP award to win the Triple Crown and not be named league MVP in that season. Klein lost to Dizzy Dean, Williams lost to Joe Gordon and Gehrig lost to Mickey Cochrane
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Post by $heriff Tom on Apr 12, 2008 11:06:56 GMT -5
In regards to Bosux Triple Crowns, I just read something interesting in regards to Yaz' Triple Crown in Dick Williams' autobiog. That year Yaz had the average and RBI marks locked up, and ended up tying on the home run lead with Harmon Killebrew on the last day of the year.
It does not really take away from his accomplishment, but Williams blames himself for Yaz not running the table, as with a 4 run lead late in the game and Harmon up with one guy on while one down on the homer tally to Yaz, Dick Williams told his hurler to "let him hit it" cause a homer would not tie up the game, and would clear up the situation on the bases and get Killebrew out of the way.
So the guy lays one in there, Killebrew slams it out, and the Sox go on to win the game but Yaz finishes up with a tie in the homer department. Not the most pressing of stories, but I just read about this a couple of days ago.
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Post by MSBNYY on Apr 12, 2008 16:09:42 GMT -5
How do you know another manager didn't do that with Yaz?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Apr 23, 2008 22:03:47 GMT -5
Jacoby Ellsbury is approaching a Major League Baseball record held by Tim Raines. At the start of his career (1979-1981), Raines was successful on his first 27 steal attempts, the longest such streak at the start of a player's career, according to stats provided by Sean Forman and the geniuses at Baseball-Reference.com. Ellsbury, who swiped 9 bases without being caught last season, hasn't been caught in 8 attempts this year (including 6 in the last week), putting him at 17 straight to start his career.
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Post by 9 on Apr 24, 2008 6:41:28 GMT -5
My Grandpappy was right. He always said, "Watch out for dem theivin Injuns."
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Post by $heriff Tom on Apr 24, 2008 6:59:13 GMT -5
To think there are people out there saying Melky Cabrera and Jacoby Ellsbury are the same kind of player.
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Post by whalerfan on Apr 24, 2008 8:18:42 GMT -5
"A-Rod has been on 6 postseason teams, and those teams have been bounced in round one 5 times."
A-Rod has played in two ALCSs, in 2000 and 2004.
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Post by 9 on Apr 24, 2008 10:41:09 GMT -5
I think he still has nightmares about Clemens' brushback pitch in 2000.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jun 9, 2008 17:31:04 GMT -5
Philadelphia's Jeff Stone had FIVE 4-hit games in 1984 (all within his first 50 career games) and never had another one. 3 of em were against the Mutts.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Aug 1, 2008 11:48:47 GMT -5
Since Mike Torrez won a World Series game for the Yankees in 1977, there has been only ONE starting pitcher a team acquired in midseason that has won a World Series game. And that was Jeff Weaver with the Cards 2 years ago.
Puts the flurry of deals into perspective.
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Post by Chris on Aug 1, 2008 12:02:19 GMT -5
Cool. Glad the Yanks didn't pick up any starters! ;D
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Post by massyanksfan on Aug 5, 2008 12:10:49 GMT -5
The only two players to win multiple MVP awards AND be eligable for the Hall of Fame (who are not in the HOF) are Dale Murphy and Roger Maris.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Aug 5, 2008 12:37:06 GMT -5
And neither deserve the Hall nod.
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Post by MSBNYY on Aug 5, 2008 13:34:37 GMT -5
Murphy is borderline, but he falls short for me. Average is too low, and the totals aren't there.
Very good ballplayer in his prime though.
Maris in the HOF would be one of the most ridiculous selections this side of Bill Mazeroski.
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Post by massyanksfan on Aug 5, 2008 16:55:41 GMT -5
I could make a case for each, but then again, I could also make a case against each.
Maris at least broke an unbreakable record. Given the fact that he did it in New York where Mantle and Ruth were the toast of the town, I think the pressure had an affect on him later in his career.
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Post by Chris on Aug 5, 2008 17:18:46 GMT -5
Actually, I think if you HAD to make an argument for one of them, Dale Murphy would be the easier choice to defend.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Aug 5, 2008 17:38:53 GMT -5
Murphy would be the better choice to defend, yes.
Maris at least broke an unbreakable record
Eh, which has since been broken a handful of times.
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Post by Chris on Aug 5, 2008 17:43:01 GMT -5
There was a time, albeit a brief time, when Dale Murphy was THE MAN.
Roger Maris had never been THE MAN.
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Post by Jason Giambi on Aug 5, 2008 18:31:29 GMT -5
It's hard to say Maris never was "the man"....... Playing next to Mickey sorta shadowed him. Although his domination didn't last probably long enough to get in the Hall.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Aug 5, 2008 19:06:45 GMT -5
Folks, if you ever think Maris even should get a sniff, just go visit his page on Baseball-reference.com, or some other stat zone. It should take you all of about 20 seconds...if you are slow to pick up on things....to realize he should be nowhere near. Take away two seasons with the Yankees, and you have nothing.
And for a hoot check out "similar hitters." Tony Armas, Jesse Barfield, Jay Buhner....
Hall of Fame? Puh-leeze.
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Post by MSBNYY on Aug 8, 2008 8:06:24 GMT -5
Yes, Maris broke the unbreakable record, and that record has not been legitimately broken (and it took 37 years for that record to be broken by cheating). But HOF? NO WAY.
It was an impressive season. A VERY impressive season. But in the end, it was one season, and not even as good as Mantle's 1956 effort.
The fact that Mantle hit 48 points higher and had a 76 point lead in OBP also suggests that Maris, despite the 7 extra HRs and 14 extra RBI, was not even the best player on the team that year. Obviously, you have to give him the MVP, but if I were picking a player from the 1961 lineup for a team I wanted to create, Mantle would be picked ahead of Maris.
The ONLY reason he is remembered was because of one fluke year. That's like wondering why Don Larsen isn't in the HOF.
Maris is a little bit below being borderline for being borderline in the HOF.
Bernie Williams is arguably more of a HOFer than Maris.
Not only should Maris not be in the HOF, I think they should take his number off the wall, and kick one of his descendants in the balls.
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Post by Jason Giambi on Aug 8, 2008 8:13:16 GMT -5
The Maris family has had their share of problems. Leave them alone.
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Post by massyanksfan on Aug 14, 2008 11:01:26 GMT -5
Billy Martin was the first player in MLB history to record two base hits in the same inning in his first game. It was done in the 80's by an obscure career minor leaguer who played for about 10 days in the show. (Kind of like Crash Davis)
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