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Post by $heriff Tom on Nov 1, 2007 13:33:08 GMT -5
Larry Bird would have never worn purple & gold. End of story
The only thing that stopped Bernie Williams from wearing a Red Sox uniform was the Yankees changing their mind. Mr Yankee over there was all ready to skip to Beantown.
Sorry, but lots of players will tell you themselves the real rivarly is in the seats, amongst the fans. Friggin' Yankee and Red Sox players were taking the same chartered flights to All-Star games and yukking it up shortly after the fight-filled games. Baseball is business.
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Post by mac0822 on Nov 1, 2007 13:39:27 GMT -5
Agreed...Other than a few instances such as Varitek owning ARod at Fenway.
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Post by kingdzbws on Nov 1, 2007 13:45:10 GMT -5
If you had 50 mil in the bank and your boss said you were in the twighlight of your career and offered you a few million less, you'd answer. "Well, I wanna be with Boston, so I'll take the diss?" or Might you be motivated to show him that your not at the end of the road?
An Athlete is a business, why is his expectation of profitability less than a conglomerate? There are very few CEO's that take pay cuts, why should a ballplayer, or anyone else for that matter.
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Post by IronHorse4 on Nov 1, 2007 13:45:26 GMT -5
The answer to that is found in my post in this thread timestamped 1:22 p.m.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Nov 6, 2007 10:41:22 GMT -5
Schilling reaches agreement with champs on deal ESPN.com news services
Updated: November 6, 2007, 9:52 AM ET
Curt Schilling and the Boston Red Sox have reached an agreement on a one-year deal worth about $8 million in base salary and another $2 million in potential incentives, ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney reports.
The agreement is pending Schilling, 40, passing a physical exam.
On his Web site, 38pitches.com, Schilling gave an update on the negotiations.
"Talks with the Red Sox are moving," he wrote. "[Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein] and I have spoken multiple times daily over the past week and given the current situation I am feeling very confident that we will be able to finalize a 1 year contract to allow us a chance to finish our career as members of the Red Sox organization.
"There are some things to iron out and details that must be finalized for both sides but barring something unforseen or outrageously odd happening I feel very comfortable that I will finish my career here."
Schilling, who is not represented by an agent, went 9-8 with a 3.87 ERA last season. He won three games in the postseason, including Game 2 of the World Series on the way to Boston's sweep of the Colorado Rockies.
Schlling is a six-time All-Star who has been with the Red Sox for four of his 20 seasons.
The Boston Herald, which first reported that Schilling was near a deal with the Red Sox, reported that the Astros, Diamondbacks and Phillies all contacted Schilling on the first day of free agency. But Schilling posted on his Web site: "I made it clear to all three teams that my intent was to do whatever I could to resolve this and remain in Boston for the final year of my career."
In 2004, Schilling went 21-6 and helped lead the Red Sox to their first World Series title since 1918, but his velocity has since diminished.
After the Red Sox declined to give him an extension, Schilling said in February that he would become a free agent after the season. He said then he would return for Boston in 2008 for $13 million, the same salary he earned in 2007.
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Post by mac0822 on Nov 6, 2007 13:08:33 GMT -5
Glad to see him back. I am not glad to see Wakefield back however.
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Post by 9 on Nov 6, 2007 16:12:57 GMT -5
I figured Schilling would stay in Boston.
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Post by mac0822 on Nov 6, 2007 16:16:36 GMT -5
Now if he'd just learn to shut up, get off his Blog & stop stiffing W's nuts....
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Post by 9 on Nov 6, 2007 16:38:16 GMT -5
NOW you're asking a lot!
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Post by mac0822 on Nov 7, 2007 16:05:42 GMT -5
I would assume that the WORLD CHAMPS plan on trading Julian Tavarez. They picked up his option ($2 million I think), but have 5 other starters. I doubt they'll keep him around for relief.
Toss him in the NL & he'd be an OK 4-5 starter.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Nov 14, 2007 10:44:39 GMT -5
He looks like Inspector Clouseau. Stylist Meagan Boyle, left, and Michelle Fonzi gave Boston Red Sox first baseman Kevin Youkilis a mirror to examine the progress of shaving off his goatee as part of a charity event on Tuesday, Nov. 13, 2007, in Boston. For shaving off his signature goatee, Gillette will present Youkilis with US$5,000 for his newly formed charitable organization, Kevin Youkilis Hits for Kids.
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Post by mac0822 on Nov 19, 2007 13:43:19 GMT -5
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Post by MSBNYY on Nov 19, 2007 13:44:15 GMT -5
Makes some sense. When you're happy, stay put, especially if you are making $12.5 million a year.
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Post by mac0822 on Nov 19, 2007 13:45:35 GMT -5
I don't get why more players don't do this. What will that extra $10 million really do for them? Honestly.
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Post by MSBNYY on Nov 19, 2007 13:49:17 GMT -5
I agree 100 percent. $10 million would be hard to spend in a lifetime. But these guys make that in a YEAR. Seeing people go for every last dollar always bothers me. Like getting 8 figures is a rip off.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Nov 19, 2007 14:03:25 GMT -5
Come on. Its simple. Athlete ego. Why take less when someone else who plays your position that you believe you are better than makes more. Thats the reason. In fact, I have seen players ADMIT this is the reason, in negotiations.
Athletes, when they believe they are the best on the open market, want to be paid the best of the open market.
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Post by MSBNYY on Nov 19, 2007 14:09:32 GMT -5
And most of them are a bunch of dicks.
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Post by mac0822 on Nov 19, 2007 14:13:39 GMT -5
I understand that Tom, but a $10 million offer from the Royals means a hell of lot more than one from NY or Boston. In fact, a $10 million offer from KC would mean they wanted them MORE than NY or Boston.
Just like everything else - it goes back to how you were raised.
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Post by 9 on Nov 19, 2007 14:45:15 GMT -5
Most of them also let their agents lead them around by their ball sacks. And obviously, the bigger the contract, the bigger the agent's cut.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Nov 29, 2007 20:27:34 GMT -5
Sox Will Keep Good Times Rolling
By Jim Callis (BASEBALL AMERICA) November 15, 2007
BOSTON—When the Red Sox won the 2004 World Series, it was mostly a tribute to their financial muscle.
After the heartbreak of 2003, Boston needed a frontline starter and a closer. No in-house options were available, so the Red Sox traded for Curt Schilling in a salary dump and signed Keith Foulke as a free agent.
Likewise, all the major stars on the '04 club were the products of trades (Pedro Martinez, Jason Varitek) or free agency (Johnny Damon, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez). Just one truly homegrown player was on the roster for all three rounds of the playoffs: Trot Nixon.
This year's championship team had a much different feel. Boston still isn't afraid to wield its wallet, as the second-highest payroll in the game ($143 million) and the offseason acquisitions of Daisuke Matsuzaka ($103 million), J.D. Drew ($70 million) and Julio Lugo ($36 million) attest.
But these Red Sox are more than just the best team that non-Yankees money can buy.
They batted a pair of rookies, Jacoby Ellsbury and Dustin Pedroia, atop their lineup in the final two games of the Series. Kevin Youkilis didn't start the last two games because Ortiz moved to first base with no DH at Coors Field, but the Greek God of Walks powered the lineup by batting .500 with three homers in the American League Championship Series. One second-year pitcher (Jon Lester) pitched 5 2/3 shutout innings to win the finale, another (Manny Delcarmen) got the next two outs and a third (Jonathan Papelbon) closed out the Fall Classic with his third consecutive save.
The bad news for the other 29 teams is that there's more to come.
Buchholz, Lowrie Lead Next Wave
After their last World Series championship, Boston didn't re-sign Pedro Martinez, Derek Lowe or Orlando Cabrera. A year later, they not only lost Johnny Damon, but they lost him to the Yankees. Sox fans didn't like those decisions, nor did they relish watching their team getting swept in the 2005 AL Division Series or finishing third in the AL East in 2006.
There shouldn't be any cause for impatience this time around. The Red Sox have $45 million in expiring contracts, not that they were hurting for cash to begin with. They also have one of the game's most improved farm systems. It's still thriving after putting six recent graduates in key roles on the World Series roster, as well as sacrificing Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez to get No. 1 starter Josh Beckett and World Series MVP Mike Lowell in a November 2005 trade with the Marlins.
Clay Buchholz, who no-hit the Orioles in his second big league start in September, has the best pure stuff of any Boston pitching prospect since Roger Clemens. He could join Beckett, Matsuzaka and Lester in the 2008 rotation, with Beckett the old man of that group at 28.
Jed Lowrie had a breakthrough season offensively and defensively, and he could take over at shortstop or third base. Groundball machine Justin Masterson is almost ready to plug a hole in the back of the rotation or the bullpen, and Brandon Moss can serve as a low-cost yet productive fourth outfielder.
Bringing back Martinez would have sated the fans, but it wouldn't have made a difference—and it wouldn't have netted the supplemental first-round pick that was used to draft Buchholz. The Red Sox also turned the two choices they received for Cabrera into Ellsbury and Lowrie, plus the two they got for Lowe into righthanders Craig Hansen and Michael Bowden, who could play complementary roles in the near future.
Restocking With Draft, Global Market
Boston may not have won as much as it had hoped in 2005-06, but no team drafted better over those two years. Jason McLeod's first draft as scouting director landed Ellsbury, Hansen, Buchholz, Lowrie, Bowden with five picks in the first and sandwich rounds in 2005. The Red Sox' best choices in 2006 came in the later rounds, with Masterson (second round), outfielders Ryan Kalish (ninth) and Josh Reddick (17th) and first baseman Lars Anderson (18th).
The Sox didn't have as many premium picks and didn't spend as much money in 2007, but had another productive draft headlined by fast-track lefthander Nick Hagadaone (supplemental first) and athletic shortstop/third baseman Will Middlebrooks (fifth).
They're also getting more aggressive on the international front. Their foothold in Japan is obvious after signing Matsuzaka and Hideki Okajima last winter, and they followed up in June by signing outfielder Che-Hsuan Lin out of Taiwan. Boston got two of the best buys in Latin America in 2006 in Dominican outfielder Engel Beltre (sent to the Rangers in the Eric Gagne trade) and Dominican shortstop Oscar Tejada, then shelled out $1.5 million for Dominican shortstop/third baseman Michael Almanzar this July.
Asked to compare the two recent championships, Red Sox chairman Tom Werner said, "In 2004, it was for our parents and grandparents and those people who suffered through eight decades before a world championship. This is for us and for our children and for everybody in Red Sox Nation."
With the Red Sox' blend of veteran and young talent, their financial advantages and scouting acumen, the next generation is in good hands. This time, Boston may not have to go even three years between titles.
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Post by massyanksfan on Nov 30, 2007 10:55:30 GMT -5
Living in MA, I have to hear the Chowder Heads spew this day in and day out. Bottom line is that 10 years ago, you saw NO Red Sox, Patriots or Celtics gear. Now, they pass it out in soup kitchen lines. RED SOX NATION IS A THIRD WORLD NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Jason Giambi on Nov 30, 2007 10:57:40 GMT -5
lol @ 3rd world nation.
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Post by massyanksfan on Nov 30, 2007 11:07:11 GMT -5
Cowboy up was an insult to Cowboys untill "Brokeback Mountain" came out, now it is the perfect description of what happens in the Dead Sux locker room after a game.
I'll be here all week, try the blue plate!
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 20, 2007 19:03:06 GMT -5
Dog gone it? Pap's pooch eats history Ball that sealed Red Sox's World Series win meets biting fate BOSTON -- Jonathan Papelbon's dog apparently has a taste for baseball history. Wondering what happened to that baseball Papelbon used to strike out Colorado's Seth Smith to close out the four-game sweep by the Red Sox in the World Series? According to Papelbon, his dog ate it. And the remains of the ball are in the living room of Papelbon's Hattiesburg, Miss., home. This, according to what Papelbon told his local newspaper -- the Hattiesburg American. mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071220&content_id=2334589&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
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Post by Chris on Dec 20, 2007 19:40:10 GMT -5
"According to Papelbon, his dog ate it."
Translation - "I sold that shit on eBay!"
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 28, 2008 15:25:53 GMT -5
This thread is just as not much fun without that dope Mac running about on here.
Anyway, Red Sox picked up the 1st name, alphabetically, in the Baseball Encyclopedia. I used to like this guy, collected a few of his cards. I may end up burning them yet.
Red Sox acquire righthanded pitcher David Aardsma
BOSTON -- The Red Sox today acquired righthanded pitcher David Aardsma from the Chicago White Sox in exchange for righthanded pitchers Willy Mota and Miguel Socolovich.
The announcement was made by Executive Vice President/General Manager Theo Epstein.
Aardsma, 26, has been added to Boston's major league roster, putting that list at 39 players.
The righthander split the 2007 season between the White Sox and Triple-A Charlotte. He opened the season with Chicago and was 2-0, 1.31 with 26 strikeouts in 20.2 innings in his first 14 appearances through May 12. Aardsma led all A.L. relievers with 23 strikeouts in April. Overall, he was 2-1, 6.40 with 36 strikeouts in 32.1 innings in his 25 relief appearances with the White Sox. The righthander spent the second half of 2007 at Charlotte and was 3-2, 4.33 with 15 saves in 18 games.
Aardsma is 6-1 with a 5.16 ERA and 90 strikeouts in 96.0 innings in 81 career major league relief appearances with the Giants, Cubs, and White Sox. He pitched in 11 games in his major league debut with San Francisco in 2004 and was 3-0, 4.08 in 45 appearances over four stints with the Chicago Cubs in 2006. He held the opposition to a .214 batting average in his season with the Cubs. Aardsma was selected by the Giants in the first round of the 2003 First Year Player Draft.
Mota was 5-3, 2.60 with one save in 17 relief appearances at Single-A Lowell in 2007, his first season as a pitcher after four years playing the outfield in the Red Sox organization. Socolovich split the year between two Single-A teams, going 2-2, 6.65 in 11 games at Greenville and 5-4, 3.56 in 14 games/13 starts at Lowell. He has been in the Boston system for four seasons.
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Post by jwmcc on Jan 28, 2008 16:10:40 GMT -5
I always found it cool when I was a kid and flipping open the Baseball Encyclopedia and the first name in the hitters section was Hank Aaron. Jw
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Post by thecaptain15 on Feb 1, 2008 14:40:47 GMT -5
Looks like the Red Sox have signed Sean Casey.....
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Post by 9 on Feb 7, 2008 16:01:27 GMT -5
Everyone's favorite douchebag blogger is having shoulder problems. Me so sad. From ESPN.com:
Don't pencil Curt Schilling into the Boston Red Sox rotation for 2008 just yet.
The Boston Globe and Boston Herald are reporting that Schilling has a shoulder injury that has the right-hander and the club in a dispute over whether he needs surgery and the Red Sox have at least investigated to see if they can void his 2008 contract.
He is scheduled to make $8 million in 2008.
When contacted by ESPN.com's Jayson Stark, Schilling declined comment.
The Globe reported that Schilling recently visited Dr. Craig Morgan, who performed the right-hander's shoulder surgery in 1995. Citing HIPPA rules, Morgan wouldn't comment when contacted by the newspaper. Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein e-mailed a "no comment" to the Globe.
Schilling's salary in 2007 was $13 million, but he spent seven weeks on the disabled list with tendinitis in his right shoulder.
Schilling went 9-8 with a 3.87 ERA during the 2007 regular season, then added to his impressive postseason resume by going 3-0 with a 3.00 ERA. He is 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA in his postseason career.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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Post by Chris on Feb 7, 2008 16:20:38 GMT -5
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.
What a loudmouth. Talk about having no grace whatsoever.
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