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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 30, 2008 23:26:06 GMT -5
Stop hating on Varitek. Yeah, he sucked last year, but we have a few guys who also sucked last year. Take off the pinstriped blinders. And the reason he is a type A is its based on the last TWO seasons, and he had a dandy 2007. He also plays a primo position, with not a lot of superstars.
Its funny to hear Balls whining about how much we deserve for Giambi all of a sudden.
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Post by pags03 on Dec 30, 2008 23:36:51 GMT -5
Giambi is about worthless, if we got back the needle he shot in his ass, that would be too much for him. I praise Giambi's fortitude and being honest, but we were sold a bag of goods on that #. No blinders on the Tek front, I'm the first to admitt that contract for Jorge was crazy and last year proved that signing a catcher of that age, after that many years of service isn't a good idea. I believe the Sux will do something and not necessarily major and they will be major contenders in the East. Theo is like a magician, makes something out of nothing a lot of times.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 8, 2009 0:25:42 GMT -5
Red Sox strike back....Smoltz and Baldelli on the way.
Those two could end up being real pains in the ass. Baldelli, by the way, was misdiagnosed all along, and should be back to his normal self soon enough.
This certainly does not make a strong Red Sox team any worse.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 8, 2009 7:01:03 GMT -5
Are free agents rated based on TWO seasons, or the previous season? Varitek was one of the worst hitters in baseball last year. In his prime, he was a type A. Today, he is no better than Pudge, who of course was better than Varitek in his prime as well. Whether we have a few guys who sucked last year has absolutely nothing to do with Varitek, but it's not surprising you'll come to the defense of anyone in a Boston uniform.
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Post by 9 on Jan 8, 2009 11:10:29 GMT -5
I think both signings -- Smoltz and Baldelli -- are great gambles by Boston. As much as their faggot-ass fans like Mac try to cry poverty, they have the money to fuck around, too. If they don't work out, so what?
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Post by Chris on Jan 8, 2009 11:43:01 GMT -5
Wow. Baldelli is no longer a Ray?
That's a solid pickup for the Sox. And Smoltz? Are you kidding me? If healthy, that guy scares the shit out of me.
How will they use Smoltz?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 8, 2009 12:40:41 GMT -5
How will they use Smoltz?
Much to our chagrin, thats how.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 8, 2009 12:43:40 GMT -5
I think that Baldelli is a solid pickup. I don't know the financial terms, but I'm guessing it would be a fairly low, incentive laden contract, and he will certainly be a solid bench guy for them. Let's not make it out though that he's the same guy he was when he was starting.
As for Smoltz, hard to say. His season was ended in just 28 innings due to a torn labrum. Who knows if he'll be the same? And in the AL East, at 42? Tough to predict.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 8, 2009 14:01:29 GMT -5
Balls, why do you think Baldelli wont be "early Baldelli?" He's only 27 years old, and has been suffering from a malady which was misdiagnosed, and now they are saying health will not be an issue for the first time in years.
As to Smoltz, I read they are not even looking at him debuting till close to June. Apparently they will be "taking it slow" with him, and working him like they worked Bart Colon. If Smoltz comes back healthy, they look for him to ease into the rotation. Same article mentioned the Brad Penny deal is nearly a done deal, so they are building strength on an already strong rotation.
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Post by Chris on Jan 8, 2009 16:47:11 GMT -5
Lester Dice K Beckett Penny (if healthy) Smoltz (if healthy)
That's a hell of a rotation.
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Post by pags03 on Jan 9, 2009 9:51:47 GMT -5
The Sox won't rush Smoltz, they realize it's a long season and as long as they can stay close they won't need to push Smoltz. The Smoltz & Penny signings can really soldify that rotation if they overcome those health issues. Rocco was a good signing as wealth, this guy coming up was compared to all time greats, but he's been hampered with injuries. If he is now healthy, that is a great deal for the Sox.
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Post by 9 on Jan 9, 2009 10:58:29 GMT -5
They're all smart risks by a team that can afford to take chances. If none of these guys pans out, they're still a solid team, and they won't be hurt financially.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 9, 2009 11:21:24 GMT -5
Lester Dice K Beckett Penny (if healthy) Smoltz (if healthy)
That's a hell of a rotation.
And Wakefield and Bucholz (who is projected as a future staff-leader) in reserve.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 10, 2009 13:31:55 GMT -5
Oh man, Red Sox shoot and score again...this one in particular will tick off Jose, he's been calling for the Yankees to nab this guy for weeks. A strong bullpen gets even more solid. Busy Red Sox add reliever Saito Ex-LA closer joins Penny, Smoltz, Baldelli as Boston signeesThe Red Sox continue to stay busy this offseason. On Saturday, they signed reliever Takashi Saito to a one-year contract with a club option for 2010, a Major League source confirmed. The club is expected to announce the signing later today.
Saito is the fourth player Boston has signed this week, joining pitchers John Smoltz and Brad Penny and outfielder Rocco Baldelli. Like the trio, Saito is considered a low-risk, high-reward gamble. Saito missed most of last season with a sprained ligament in his right elbow.
According to FOXSports.com, Saito's deal includes a guarantee between $1.5 million and $2.5 million. He could also earn more than $7 million if he reaches all of his incentives.
Saito, 38, joins an already impressive relief corps that includes Manny Delcarmen, Hideki Okajima and closer Jonathan Papelbon. Saito spent the past three years with the Dodgers, saving 81 games with a 1.95 ERA.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 10, 2009 13:42:58 GMT -5
I get it. You're going to suck off every 50 year old Boston adds, while trashing all the people in their prime the Yankees add.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 10, 2009 13:45:38 GMT -5
I guess you missed this part...
Saito spent the past three years with the Dodgers, saving 81 games with a 1.95 ERA.
And, also, as I said, Jose in particular was going nuts trying to coax the Yankees into getting this guy.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 10, 2009 14:16:52 GMT -5
NL pitching stats are not AL pitching stats, especially in the NL West.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 10, 2009 14:22:55 GMT -5
Keep whistlin' past the graveyard.
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Post by 9 on Jan 10, 2009 14:30:26 GMT -5
Balls, you make it sound like the NL is equivalent to high school JV ball. While I agree that the AL is better, the NL is still part of the Major fucking Leagues!
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 10, 2009 15:25:13 GMT -5
But again, the stats don't translate. You're facing weaker competition. There's a reason AL pitchers become superstars in the NL, and NL pitchers are afraid to come to the AL.
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Post by 9 on Jan 10, 2009 16:16:35 GMT -5
Sigh ... it's like talking to a wall.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 10, 2009 16:44:10 GMT -5
How many NL pitchers have come to the AL and done better in recent years? Or better, what is the percentage of NL pitchers that have come to the AL and improved their stats?
Same question in reverse with the AL. When Ted Lilly can put up decent numbers, you know something is wrong.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 10, 2009 18:02:59 GMT -5
So why dont we just shut down the National League?
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 10, 2009 18:05:42 GMT -5
Because the American League needs a farm. But then again, the problem might go away if the NL decided to move into the 21st century and adopt the DH.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 10, 2009 18:07:45 GMT -5
Actually, I would rather see the AL drop the DH.
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Post by grover on Jan 10, 2009 19:52:42 GMT -5
And yet the World Series champ came from the Nl last season.
Why am I even arguing? Balls you're a faggot, plain and simple. This website is set up so you can argue with everyone. When's the last time you had a decent conversation without trying to inject a viewpoint that you wouldn't even think about considering that it may be the wrong one?
I hope the Red Sox and Mets switch every other championship for the next 50 years, and the Republican party gets banned for being gay.
Fuck you.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 11, 2009 9:34:19 GMT -5
And again, one team winning a series does not mean an entire league is better. When the Royals sweep the Yankees, it doesn't mean they are a better team. If you really think the NL was better because the Phillies had a good week over one AL team, you're an idiot. The fact that you rant about me rather than make an argument says it all.
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Post by Chris on Jan 11, 2009 21:50:23 GMT -5
Balls, you poo-poo'ing the signing of Saito is really wearing the NL vs the AL thing thin.
Take it from me, someone who has seen Saito in action many times, in person and on TV. This guy can flat out pitch. He can close games. He is a legit upper echelon closer.
So you're trying to tell me that a Saito/Papelbon team isn't a feather in Boston's cap.
This move now emphasizes the urgency of the Yankees moving Joba to the 8th where he will dominate.
The Yankees MUST play catchup here.
Anyone we have / Mariano < Saito/Papelbon .... period.
The Red Sox just did what we did starting in 96 - turned a 9 inning game into a 6 or 7 inning game.
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Post by Chris on Jan 11, 2009 21:52:46 GMT -5
As a matter of fact, Saito is better than ANYONE in our bullpen aside from Mariano.
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Post by 9 on Jan 11, 2009 22:03:57 GMT -5
No, he isn't, because on a scale of 1-100, the National League is a .0003 and the American League is a 110, so he'll suck in Boston.
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