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Post by sancho231 on Oct 30, 2006 20:20:58 GMT -5
source: Wrestling Observer
Four SmackDown stars will be moving to ECW.
Daivari and The Great Khali appeared at last night's SD/ECW tapings. However, this time around, it looks like Daivari will be pushed as a wrestler and The Great Khali will be in his corner. It is unknown if Khali has been cleared to wrestle yet. He had surgery on both of his knees back in August and he is supposed to be out of action for several months. Another SmackDown pairing will be moving to ECW as well. The duo of Sylvester Terkay and Elijah Burke will be appearing on ECW cards now. Both individuals debuted on SmackDown in July. Terkay remains undefeated.
WOW! this Version Of ECW is getting worse by the week. why would thay be adding guys to the ECW roster if they are losing house shows AND only have 1 hour of TV a week? this gets the big thumbs down form me
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 31, 2006 7:05:58 GMT -5
Hard to really be impressed by a wrestler named Sylvester.
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Post by globix on Jan 30, 2007 22:32:45 GMT -5
1. Who's living rooom did Punk take a crap in? 2. Who's cock is Hardcore Holly sucking 3. Couldn't McMahon be happy with ruining 1 show?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 30, 2007 23:17:39 GMT -5
Word everywhere is that NO ONE likes Punk. He is despised backstage, and everyone takes glee in seeing him crapped on. Holly is an old hand, and he went over RVD cause RVD is as good as gone, and the WWE knows it. They want him to look dumb going out. But there are worse guys than RVD.
And, for all the garbage McMahon is going to take for appearing tonight, I bet its the highest rated ECW show in eons. In fact, maybe ever.
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Post by globix on Jan 30, 2007 23:26:14 GMT -5
I actually liked seeing Holly go over, though it was very surprising. Is McMahon's new approach to play up all the negative things that are said about him in the dirt sheets? first the "You like what I tell you to like", and now the "I think anything ECW original SUCKS"
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 31, 2007 8:29:06 GMT -5
Eh, Holly has had a nice push in ECW. Dont forget he is also the guy who broke Punk's undefeated streak, and has had a whole heap of competitive matches with the top guys on that roster, including a bunch of other ones against RVD. They want you to buy him as a threat to Lashley, as well.
Its funny, I was watching a tape of Royal Rumble 2001 the other day and the only guy who looked EXACTLY alike (and was wearing the exact same tights) was our friend Holly.
And, yeah, Vince is firing back at the sheets and the fans, no doubt. He is a petulant kid in a lot of ways.
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Post by sancho231 on Jan 31, 2007 15:02:42 GMT -5
I thought Vince's segments on ECW were done weel in theroy. this would have gotten a monster pop if the show was at ECW arena, Elk's Lodge, Hammerstien, ya know places ECw dosent run anymore. if vinve walked into and old shcool ECW crowd and said that shit hed easily become the biggest heel in THAT companys history.that said what he did last nigt , i m hoping is gonna buld towards something mabey a 6 man tag or 8 man originals vs Extremists. hey if mania is gonna be 4 hours why not? Sandman,Dreamer, Balls,and Sabu vs Burke, Striker,Cor Von and Test?it could work
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Post by grover on Jan 31, 2007 15:29:39 GMT -5
Sure, why not? The reason ECW was getting good was for that very reason, that Paul E turned on the originals. I think it will really work.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 31, 2007 15:31:20 GMT -5
It could....I am surprised they are pushing the ECW relics in any angle fashion regardless. Honestly, those 4 guys just look, well, bad. By the way, I am so jaded towards "turns' in wrestling I was waiting for Balls to turn on the other originals when he came running in last, or Sandman to turn and start caning Dreamer. But all that would be dumb, its just what you come to expect in these sorts of things.
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Post by grover on Jan 31, 2007 15:37:27 GMT -5
Yeah, they all looked terrible, but, they've always been terrible, so I came to expect it.
It would still be a fun match if it were to happen at Wrestlemania.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Feb 1, 2007 9:24:23 GMT -5
The originals may not look great but I think they still get the biggest pops in ECW.....I think Punk is probably hated backstage since he seemed to be over and had a great built in following right from the start. I bet old timers like Holly resented the fact that they can't get anywhere and here comes this "punk" out of nowhere getting over big and then giving him a push to start. My guess is now that Vince is in his crush everything that he didn't create mode at ECW with CM being lumped in with the Originals......ECW is already very close from being removed from my TIVO list...lol
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 1, 2007 9:57:35 GMT -5
Cap, you're wrong about Punk. Again, from all accounts he came in with a bad attitude. He is personally not liked. Guys have come in before with the monster push, Brock Lesnar for example, and many others, and not had the negative feedback. Punk is also overrated. I also think the "came out of nowhere" tag is wrong, as he has been working on the Indy circuit for a bunch of years now. Its not like he won Tough Enough.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 7, 2007 8:33:41 GMT -5
In an interesting aside, the legendary Dusty Rhodes has been added to the ECW writing team. He had been working on Smackdown, which has seen a creative and ratings upgrade, with Michael Hayes. The ECW writer, Dave Lagana, asked for Rhodes to be bought in. Rhodes has had a lot of booking roles in the past, some of which ended in disaster. But its a good sign that he is being bought in, and I think he will add to the storyline portions of this show.
Last nights offering was not half bad. I enjoyed the hour.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Feb 7, 2007 20:16:14 GMT -5
Thank goodness..anything has to help so we don't see Lashley vs. Test 1000 times..lol..Also sadly (and I know it is the expiring contract thing) it looks like RVD is now considered and will be treated as "ECW Original"...
I did chuckle when Vince called them all convicts and they all smirked shrugged their shoulders and kind of agreed..lol
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Post by sancho231 on Feb 9, 2007 1:19:44 GMT -5
ECW has now become a vehicle to make Bobby Lashley a superstar. Vince McMahon is determined to make Lashley look as strong as possible. The new idea is to make Lashley into an unstoppable, dominant champion. The ECW brand is now the catalyst that gives Lashley the credibility to be one of the company's top stars. ECW as a concept is pretty much dead, only surviving because they have a television commitment on Sci Fi to live up to. The main point of the brand is that when it's all over, Lashley can be moved over to one of the other brands and be seen as an equal to the other world champions.
Credit: wrestling observer
you guys read this, that some sad shit Fuckin lashely? what the hell does vince see in this guy.
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Post by grover on Feb 9, 2007 2:00:35 GMT -5
He has a great look to him. The dud looks like he can kick some ass.
I don't mind him, although his mic skills are terrible. They seem to be pushing him as a soft spoken guy, which is fine by me. It's not as bad as it sounds. Take out the point he is trying to make as if the old ECW dream s still alive, and it's not a big deal at all.
Besides, ECW didn't want to stay small, and if it grew and survived, it would not be the same ECW, so it's no use getting mad at it. Hey, it's a good venue for young stars to excel and we don't have to watch them job to the likes of HHH and the Undertaker.
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Post by sancho231 on Feb 9, 2007 2:11:31 GMT -5
yeah no point in getting pissed cause it aint old ECW. but this is just a bad wrestling show I dont care what 3 letters you put on it every time I watch that show its just shit wrestling.I havent enjoyed A Lashely match yet. he needs better opponents . TEst, Snitsky,Holly those guys are not know for great matches i wouldnt mind seeing lashely turn heel and beat the shit outta the old guys
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 9, 2007 7:17:27 GMT -5
I don't see how Lashley needs to be ECW champ to get over. If he wants to make him a badass monster, then do it. Grover's right in that he does look like a badass. He's Ahmed Johnson 2.0. Doesn't look as mean, but in better shape and he doesn't seem as stiff.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 9, 2007 8:04:16 GMT -5
If Lashley was not the champ, then who? He is a fine option. And I understand Vince's thinking. In a couple of years they are hoping Lashley is a Brock Lesnar type. With better opponents, and an improved cadence on promos, he can be a superstar on the top shows, and not the feeder brand. Considering ECW is as minor-league as it gets, its the right way to develop him.
Lashley is mic-shy, but in backstage bits and at appearances apparently he is comfortable. It will come for him. Paul E wanted to turn him heel, but Vince was against it. I too think he would have been better off going the Brock Lesnar route, and working as a silent enforcer for a while before turning with much fanfare, but this can work too. He is plowing through the guys thrown in front of him, and he is getting DECENT matches out of some crappy guys. From all accounts he can wrestle, he just needs to be in the ring with guys where he can show it.
Finally, even if he ended up being "Ahmed Johnson 2.0" - there is nothing wrong with that. When Johnson was injured in 96, he was one of the most popular guys in the company, wrestling main-events alongside HBK and Sid Vicious, and teaming with the Ultimate Warrior during his short run back. Lashley will be fine, and in a few years may be one of the guys running the company.
Lastly, the angle where he appeared out of nowhere and took out the Big Show was one of my favorite of 2006, and I dont even consider myself much of a "fan" of his.
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 9, 2007 8:39:20 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, Lashley is a good champ, but ECW is clearly a third rate brand within the WWE. I guess if you consider ECW minor leagues, it's not so bad.
Brock Lesnar was thrust into the spotlight very fast.
If I'm getting you right, you're also thinking of the Kevin Nash scenario, where he comes in as a bodyguard/enforcer to someone else, and ends up a superstar in his own right.
When I mean Ahmed Johnson 2.0, I don't mean a clone. I mean a better version. He's already better than Johnson. The only thing I think Johnson has over Lashley is a meaner looking face. Johnson would have made a good monster heel just because he looks mean. Lashley doesn't have that, and that's just the way it is. But what he does have is a monster build and like you said, if he could show some charisma on the mic, he could go to the next level.
But in the long run, he could be a great face. I think he should surpass Johnson in every way. If I remember right, Johnson had a reputation for hurting opponents. He just wasn't that good in the ring.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 9, 2007 9:24:08 GMT -5
You're right about Johnson hurting his opponents. He was very clumsy and did not take to wrestling well. Lashley is the complete opposite, in that even though he is sluggish and has a power arsenal, he knows how to wrestle. In OVW, he was a heel, and played the monster role. Paul E wanted to revisit it, but Vince has his own ideas.
ECW is certainly a throwaway brand. But thats fine. After more time ripping through that roster and carrying the show, Lashley will be ready to come to Raw or Smackdown and the top of the card, not the middle.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Feb 12, 2007 18:06:44 GMT -5
Test was busted on a "wellness policy" issue, which takes him off of house shows for 30 days. He may still be on TV, cause Vince does not like guys sitting at home and changing up his TV plans. This is a strike against him, though, and many do not feel he is long for this ECW world.
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Post by MSBNYY on Feb 12, 2007 18:12:59 GMT -5
I am sure that when he gets back, he will have to pass a strict TEST.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Feb 12, 2007 20:12:59 GMT -5
I can't believe it took them this long....Geez if he had anymore zits on his back.........well at least we won't see him for 30 days so maybe ECW can get better...lol
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Post by sancho231 on Mar 2, 2007 0:20:59 GMT -5
Credit PWI:WWE's third annual ECW One Night Stand PPV event has been moved from the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City, which housed the previous two ONS events, to Jacksonville, Florida's Veterans Memorial Arena.
The date of the PPV was also moved from 6/10 to 6/3.
yeah i bet this ha a lot to do with the Hostile crowd that would most likley invade the hammersiten to see the Lashley show, this is a shame, what new ECW is becoming cause i think captian said it they reallty re created that ECW feel with the first ONS, thats what really pisses me off . iF VINCE wanted to he could fund the greatest ECW ever.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Mar 2, 2007 8:19:47 GMT -5
Sancho, in fairness, I bet it also has to do with other major and mitigating factors, up to and including the fact that the Jacksonville Florida Veteran's Memorial Arena holds 16,000 people....Hammerstein holds what, a quarter of that?
Its not a decision based on fear, its a decision based on business.
By the way, in case you guys have not noticed, last weeks ECW drew its highest rating ever.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Mar 2, 2007 10:34:49 GMT -5
With the direction they are going, if they put on that PPV at The Hammerstein it would be ugly....imo
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Post by thecaptain15 on Mar 2, 2007 10:37:42 GMT -5
Well this makes the decision about not attending easy and probably the decision of not ordering it even easier....
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Post by sancho231 on Mar 2, 2007 13:01:24 GMT -5
yeah well theres no way they sell that buldingin FLA out with Just ECW guys,they'll probly load that show with RAW and SD! guys much like last years
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