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Post by Chris on May 8, 2009 1:03:30 GMT -5
This is absolutely THEE fuckin' STUPIDEST movie ever made. Seriously, this is on par with Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes stupid....only worse because I think this movie actually fancies itself as a serious dark comedy endeavor.
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Post by $heriff Tom on May 8, 2009 12:20:41 GMT -5
Cho, just looking at that box, and the tagline "sex. violence. whatever" I dont see how you think they are not going for the same sort of thing "Attack" was. It appears the only person taking this seriously is you.
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Post by Chris on May 8, 2009 13:25:58 GMT -5
This movie was trying way harder to be a Pulp Fiction than an Attack Of Killer Tomotoes.
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Post by Chris on May 10, 2009 16:37:38 GMT -5
I know the actors in this movie got panned for going out and touring as "The Germs" which was very very lame....but I gotta say this was an EXCELLENT movie....and I think it's about as accurate a biopic as I've seen. They really painstakingly paid attention to detail, even re-creating insignificant little anecdotes that any SoCal punk rocker had heard about Darby Crash....even including a couple of scenes at a recreated Oki Dog. This film might not mean much to those of you who weren't part of the L.A. / SoCal punk rock scene....but this is an important movie. This movie is about a band that was to the L.A. punk scene what the Ramones were to NY, what the Doors were to late 60s Hollywood. This is a better movie than Oliver Stones' Doors pic
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Post by $heriff Tom on May 10, 2009 22:35:09 GMT -5
This movie was trying way harder to be a Pulp Fiction than an Attack Of Killer Tomotoes.
Again, just looking at the box, I dont think so.
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Post by Chris on May 11, 2009 11:49:26 GMT -5
Ehhh.
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Post by $heriff Tom on May 11, 2009 12:23:43 GMT -5
Nice red X there!
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Post by Chris on May 13, 2009 14:24:47 GMT -5
So badly wanted this to be funny...but it was only midly funny at times.
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Post by Chris on May 20, 2009 11:53:38 GMT -5
Thumbs down
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Post by Lindsey on May 20, 2009 14:10:31 GMT -5
I rented that movie a few days ago but I haven't gotten around to watching it yet.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 5, 2009 6:20:36 GMT -5
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Post by Chris on Jun 6, 2009 19:24:25 GMT -5
Not that I hold any special reverence for extremely bad TV the way Balls does...but I was disappointed in Land Of The Lost.
It was pretty funny at times, but I was negligent in researching this movie before taking my kids to see it. I took them, and the movie as a whole is extremely inappropriate for my 9 year old, let alone my 4 year old.
Lot's of sexual innuendo and lots of outright crude humor.
The story confused me a bit...wasn't the talking sleestack Enoch a "good guy" in the TV series?
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Post by 4dogg on Jun 6, 2009 20:48:40 GMT -5
will ferrell was at the game today
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Post by Chris on Jun 7, 2009 21:02:29 GMT -5
Saw THE HANGOVER today.
Funny fuckin' movie!
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 8, 2009 9:23:59 GMT -5
Land of the Lost was not extremely bad TV--at least not the first two seasons.
I haven't seen the movie yet. Planning to go maybe this weekend, though the movie was clearly written and starring people that just didn't get what the show was all about. How that show could go over the heads of these people is mindboggling.
Yes, Enik was a good guy in the series for the most part.
He was self oriented, but overall, he was benevolent. Enik was basically some guy who was from the Land of the Lost, but from a different time period. He thought that the Sleestak were his ancestors, but as he later found out, they were their descendants. As it happened, his people bottled their emotions for so long that eventually everything exploded and there was a major cataclysmic war that destroyed everything, and his people de-evolved into Sleestak.
Enik's goal was to get back to his own time and warn his people, and the Marshalls actually taught him that compassion is an emotion they must learn in order to prevent their disaster. Kind of a deep plot for a kids show.
Enik did have compassion throughout the series, and lived by a certain code of ethics. He was more of a good guy.
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Post by heartybooooo on Jun 8, 2009 12:55:52 GMT -5
It was pretty funny at times, but I was negligent in researching this movie before taking my kids to see it. I took them, and the movie as a whole is extremely inappropriate for my 9 year old, let alone my 4 year old. You mean the PG-13 rating didn't make that clear enough? I better have my kids go out and get my #1 Dad mug soon before you corner the market.
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Post by Chris on Jun 8, 2009 14:24:13 GMT -5
I didn't even know what the rating was before I went...naturally I assumed, given the show it was patterned after, it was family entertainment.
Balls....cut the crap....we get it....you pretend to like REALLY BAD 70s TV was great so that you seem quirky. As much as I liked it as a KID, Land Of The Lost was shitty TV.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 10, 2009 8:21:36 GMT -5
You clearly don't get it. You are distracted by the special effects which are outdated. It was not a shitty TV show, and the fact that an entire generation remembers it so fondly is no fluke.
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Post by Chris on Jun 10, 2009 11:22:08 GMT -5
Ehhhh, Balls...and entire generation remembers it fondly for the same reason that we remember Chef Boyardee and Spaghetti-Os fondly.....and it AIN'T for the quality....it's for the novelty.
Something tells me that at our age, we're not going out to a restaurant and ordering an Otter Pop for desert, we're not sinking ungodly amounts of money into expensive stereo equipment so we can listen to our Alvin And The Chipmunks CDs, and we're not buying Blue Ray DVD players so we can watch Sid & Marty Kroft reruns.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 10, 2009 14:29:00 GMT -5
That's simply not true. While it is a kids show, there were some standout stories in there, and that's why the show was a hit. It didn't talk down to kids like many shows often do.
And I do think the concept would work as a sci-fi show today. If you have the same quality in writers, with today's effects, you have a hit.
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Post by Chris on Jun 10, 2009 14:30:20 GMT -5
You're just being silly now...gimme a break.
All In The Family was good TV. The Odd Couple was good TV.
Land Of The Lost was a goof. Campy. You might as well be trying tell me that John Waters movies are cinematic achievements. We like them, we laugh at them...but NOT because they're good.
Look, I love The White Shadow. Quite possibly my favorite TV show ever....but it was cheesy and exploitive and I recognize that...not by any stretch of the imagination was it GOOD, GROUND-BREAKING, SOCIALLY-RELEVANT, and EARTH-SHATTERINGLY CREATIVE television.
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Post by sean on Jun 10, 2009 15:03:28 GMT -5
Saw THE HANGOVER today. Funny fuckin' movie! I'd like to see that. Big Ed Helms fan, going back to his stellar Daily Show work
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 10, 2009 16:52:43 GMT -5
That's the thing--LOTL was NOT campy at all. Not that campy is bad, but that wasn't it. 1966 Batman was campy. You don't have to be earth shattering to be good television. LOTL actually did do things not done before in kids' TV. And the writers were as good a team as could be found on any TV show--at least in the 1st 2 seasons. It wasn't that easy to duplicate, as the 1990s remake tried and failed miserably.
And White Shadow was not BAD tv either.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jun 10, 2009 19:41:13 GMT -5
Cho, not to charge the battlefield waving the Balls flag here, but this does need to be asked - when is the last time you saw an episode of Land of the Lost? Im guessing a couple of decades, at least. I know I remember it as beyond campy, and quite bizarre. A joke. But doing some research on the matter, it contained plot and substance. I confess I too have not seen much of it, but I say give the Devil the due. Seek out an episode, watch, and see if this holds true.
I know a couple of cable nets just showed a heap of episodes, and Im sure some are up on YouTube. I dont know, maybe its not what you remember it to be. And maybe Balls is truly full of crap.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 10, 2009 20:09:17 GMT -5
The show did have plots, continuity, and genuinely decent sci-fi stories. How could it not with that writing staff? Low budget, weak effects by today's standards and not exactly top acting was there too, but kids don't notice that, and the scripts do stand up today.
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Post by Chris on Jun 11, 2009 1:39:14 GMT -5
Uhh come on Tom.
Of course all of those Sid and Marty Krofft shows had plots - Sigmund The Sea Monster, HR Puff n Stuff, Wonder Man and Dyna Girl....the fucking Barbara Mandrell Show.....sure they had "writers" but not good ones...that doesn't mean they were good plots. The Kroffts were ALL ABOUT camp and purposely writing silly novelty shows.
Balls pulls this shit all the time....from his love of movie soundtracks, to his fan-hood of variety shows, to his love of extremely campy, and corny (and don't get me wrong...campiness has it's place) TV and movies while trying to pass them off as serious, well-written cinematic achievements. I'm not faulting Balls for being a fan of corny shit ( I am too, to some extent ) .... I'm saying stop trying to pass off Sid and Marty Krofft, two goofballs who made their bones in puppeteering and vaudeville and the circus for chrissakes...as the equivalent of Norman Lear and Neil Simon. It's just dumb.
If Balls really thinks Land Of The Lost and Happy Days and Mork And Mindy were "well written" shows, then the first thing that pops into mind is......EASILY AMUSED.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 11, 2009 6:47:36 GMT -5
Land of the Lost was not on the same level as the other Krofft shows. THOSE were campy. Those shows were fun to watch as kids, but were true examples of what the Kroffts were all about. Land of the Lost was different.
In fact, the differences are so obvious to viewers that it's very easy to understand that the Kroffts don't deserve credit for making that show the success it became. David Gerrold was the show runner in the first season and came up with the concepts that made the show so popular. He is not only one of the more successful sci-fi authors out there, he employed some of the greatest sci-fi writers of the era, people with far more talent than those that wrote for the Barbara Mandrell show. Many of these writers are responsible for Star Trek, which I guess you probably don't realize was one of the most popular shows of all time. Many of those that didn't write for Star Trek were bestselling authors--you know--books. To even act as if the talent wasn't there again just wreaks of ignorance.
You can turn your nose up all you want, but you simply have no clue.
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Post by heartybooooo on Jun 11, 2009 7:05:24 GMT -5
Sorry to veer off this stirring Land of the Lost "debate" but,
I watched The Wrestler last night. I thought it was well done. But really depressing. Don't watch it if you intend to go out and have fun. It kind of sucks away all joy. Mickey Roarke was a very sympathetic character. As was Tomei.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 11, 2009 7:29:32 GMT -5
Interesting. When I saw that movie, I didn't really feel depressed at all. I thought it was just an interesting story, and one that probably has a nice set of realism. Roarke WAS a sympathetic character. I hated the ending, but I liked Tomei's boobies.
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Post by heartybooooo on Jun 11, 2009 8:05:39 GMT -5
I thought the ending was very fitting. Him going back to the only thing he loved and the only place that he felt like he belonged. It seems to jive with real life and wrestlers. Flair, Hogan, Foley, Funk.
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