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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 11, 2009 8:17:53 GMT -5
THAT wasn't what bothered me. It was the open ended ending, which ended basically in the middle of a scene. I don't like being left hanging.
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Post by Chris on Jun 11, 2009 12:08:39 GMT -5
LOL at Balls telling ME about books (Many of those that didn't write for Star Trek were bestselling authors--you know--books.)
You don't even have the attention span to finish one when you start it.
OK, ease up Balls...now you're trying to turn the writers for Land Of The Lost into Robert A. Heinlein and George Orwell? Holy Crap.
Yeah, the show ran from 74-76 - must've been a SMASH HIT!
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 11, 2009 12:45:58 GMT -5
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Post by Chris on Jun 11, 2009 12:56:25 GMT -5
Something tells me that you would have a hard time getting people to join your marching parade to espouse the virtues and merits of LAND of the fucking LOST as a significant and meaningful piece of literary and cinematic science fiction achievement.
I'm hardly behind in this. Despite your wikipedia regurgitation about who worked on this super SUPER campy corny show....Most of the free-thinking world would agree that this was nothing more than a short-lived silly, corny little kiddie show, as entertaining as it was to us kiddies at the time.
I'd probably watch Davey And Goliath reruns if they came on...but in no way would I attempt to convince anyone that crap is on par with Roots and I Claudius.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 11, 2009 13:02:36 GMT -5
You would be right, since Davey and Goliath were not on par with those shows.
But the point is flying over your head. LOTL was not the typical Krofft show. The writing was much better because it had some of the best science fiction writers of the day. The effects and acting are not up to today's standards, but the stories were the show's strength.
Hell, the show even hired a linguistics expert to create a language from scratch.
It absolutely had an influence on a generation. The show aired continuously for a good 10 years after it left the airwaves. That doesn't happen for shitty shows. It's had many pop culture references over the years, and of course, spawned this awful film.
The fact that the people who made the film didn't get the show doesn't change the fact that a studio was willing to spend $100 million making a film based on that show.
Let me know when the Davey and Goliath film comes out.
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Post by Chris on Jun 12, 2009 0:46:52 GMT -5
Hell, the show even hired a linguistics expert to create a language from scratch.
Ahhh well shit then....let's put "Enemy Mine" up on the mantle right next to Gone With The Wind.
I'm sure they put painstaking efforts into creating a fake language from scratch so experts on the language dont.....ohhh wait.
Like I said....EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASILY AMUSED
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 12, 2009 6:04:07 GMT -5
You just ooze ignorance with every post. This wasn't a one time use of gibberish. The language created by a very prominent linguistics expert named Victoria Fromkin, designed to teach kids how to learn another language. It was the first artificial language ever created for a kids show. io9.com/5283736/land-of-the-losts-lost-languageKeep burying yourself in ignorance. THAT is amusing.
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Post by Chris on Jun 12, 2009 8:48:02 GMT -5
Like I said, I'm comfortable with the fact I'm probably in the overwhelming majority - people who don't hold some high reverence for a silly, campy, corny, short-lived, laughed at (not with) kiddie show.
To accuse me of being "IGNORANT" for my apparent inability to appreciate the greatness of Land Of The Lost is well....laughable.
But again, this is coming from someone who's main staple of television viewing is nostalgic crappy sitcoms and variety shows.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 12, 2009 9:14:51 GMT -5
It's not an accusation. It's a fact.
You compared the show to the other Krofft shows, which was a sign that you were ignorant of who was running the show.
You were ignorant of the writing staff on that show, which consisted of the best sci-fi writers of the era.
You were ignorant of the language created for the show by a renowned linguist and its purpose.
In short, you are ignorant of the show, and can't seem to get beyond the effects.
There's a reason the show spawned this movie, even if it was made by other people who didn't get it.
It must be hard to watch anything with your nose stuck up in the air like that.
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Post by Chris on Jun 12, 2009 9:34:09 GMT -5
I don't have my nose stuck up in the air.
But I can certainly be discerning enough to know what is truly GOOD TV, and what might just be mildly entertaining and fun for the novelty sake.
Speaking of....
Last night I watched The Odd Couple movie. I'm a big fan, as many here are, of the TV show. But I had, in fact, never seen the movie.
It was VERY funny. But I think I still prefer Klugman and Randall.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 12, 2009 9:43:55 GMT -5
Clearly that isn't the case though, given the success of the show. Klugman and Randall were unparalleled as Felix and Oscar.
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Post by Chris on Jun 12, 2009 10:33:25 GMT -5
Your choice of Top Pic in this section is all we need to know regarding your ability to determine what is quality TV and what is not.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 12, 2009 11:34:29 GMT -5
Yet since I haven't been touting Punky Brewster as great TV, your point is irrelevant as is your judgment.
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Post by Chris on Jun 12, 2009 11:49:33 GMT -5
Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if you thought Punky Brewster was landmark television, surpassed ONLY by Small Wonder.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 12, 2009 12:02:02 GMT -5
That's because you're a snob.
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Post by Chris on Jun 13, 2009 18:42:03 GMT -5
Last night I saw "I Love You Man."
It was OK.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 15, 2009 13:12:39 GMT -5
What was it about? Never heard of it.
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Post by Chris on Jun 15, 2009 13:17:34 GMT -5
You've heard of it..come on.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 15, 2009 14:14:56 GMT -5
Actually it does look a little familiar. Was that the one where the guy was getting married and had no best man?
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Post by Chris on Jun 15, 2009 14:17:50 GMT -5
Yeah...it's still in the theaters.
Like I said, OK, but not as funny as some of the other films from the Seth Rogen Circle of Friends.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jun 15, 2009 14:20:00 GMT -5
Didn't see it. No real interest.
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Post by Chris on Jun 16, 2009 11:40:36 GMT -5
Always makes for a fun time:
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 15, 2009 7:27:27 GMT -5
So with Pat Swayze gone, talk has gone to his movies. Yes, I HAVE seen Dirty Dancing, its not one of the thousands of movies everyone has seen but me. I am stunned at how many people call it, without question, their favorite film of all time.
What other Swayze films HAVE I seen.....Point Break, he was in that, right? Outsiders....we just watched that a little while ago, its a fave of Danas. Good movie. I HAVE seen Ghost....and in the theatre. i imagine that must have been a date, no other explanation for it. I have not seen any of these Red Dawn movies or any some-suches.
So, whats the skinny on Pat Swayze movies.
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 15, 2009 7:44:33 GMT -5
Well, Dirty Dancing is obviously one of his bigger hits, as is Ghost. Both were obviously well received movies.
Ghost was hurt by the presence of Whoopi Goldberg, whose face alone is a turnoff.
Though I have to admit, it's kind of funny thinking that this big romantic scene where Swayze's character gets to molest Demi Moore requires his spirit to possess Whoopi Goldberg so they could touch. So while we SEE Swayze, in "reality," Demi Moore is being molested by Whoopi.
Gross.
Dirty Dancing was a classic 1980s movies, though a bit too girly for my taste. Certainly not my favorite Swayze film.
Red Dawn was the very first PG-13 movie ever made, in 1985. The story is a "what if" story, where the United States is invaded by the Russians and Cubans in a mostly conventional war. Swayze is one of a group of high school students who survives the initial attack, and leads these people in a bunch of guerilla raids on the Russians. One of the best 1 star movies ever. The movie had Jennifer Grey in it, and was made 2 years before Dirty Dancing.
Roadhouse is another great Swayze movie. He is a bouncer at a bar, and beats a lot of people up. Good guy movie.
I thought Point Break sucked, but admittedly, I haven't seen it since I saw it in the theatre.
There's another Swayze movie called Next of Kin that I thought was pretty good. Interestingly enough, I just looked it up on the imdb, and the cast is actually pretty damn outstanding. I guess it was a lot of solid actors that were on the way up. Liam Neeson, Helen Hunt, Bill Paxton, Ben Stiller, and of course Swayze, were all in this movie.
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Post by cactusjames on Sept 17, 2009 9:03:25 GMT -5
I almost threw up when Tom called Swayze Pat.....yuck. Pat...Swayze.....Ewwww. That's really creepy. I literally had chills run up and down my body starting from my the tip of my tailbone. The exact definitions of douche chills.
All his movies sucked....period. I feel bad bashing a dead guy, ok I really don't give a shit either way, but he wasn't a good actor and his movies sucked. How anyone considers his shit a good movie is beyond me. I won't say anything bad about who likes it cause I like some shitty shit but, personally, i don't feel he had great skill as an actor. How someone can write that review of Red Dawn and in a positive light. Those damn crazy commies always start problems in 80's American Cinema. I bet it's nothing like those other the US has to beat Russia movies......
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 17, 2009 13:10:22 GMT -5
In the 1980s, the USSR was the biggest threat to the US. And they weren't just starting problems in US cinema. That whole cold war thing lasted 45 years. They're still a pain in the ass.
Red Dawn is a classic. There's a reason it's being remade. Fucking commie bastards. WOLVERINES!!!!
As for making fun of a dead actor--go for it. Let's see some good old fashioned dead famous person wit. We like that stuff.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Sept 17, 2009 16:08:57 GMT -5
One of the best 1 star movies ever.
I agree on Red Dawn..though far from a cinema classic for some reason I always liked that movie and stop the channel if I see it on late night or a Saturday afternoon. Youngblood is another I liked since I am a hockey guy but I don't stop the channel changing all the time on that one........
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Post by Chris on Nov 16, 2009 14:29:56 GMT -5
The Fourth Kind might be the worst movie EVER! I feel insulted for having seen it.
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Post by MSBNYY on Nov 16, 2009 14:35:58 GMT -5
2012 wasn't bad, even though Danny Glover couldn't get a cab.
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Post by Chris on Nov 16, 2009 16:52:00 GMT -5
I'm going to see 2012 at the famous Cineram Dome in Hollywood on Thanksgiving Weekend:
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