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Post by cactusjames on Nov 17, 2008 10:42:17 GMT -5
What I'll do is smack my face when he tries to give me leg drop like I was getting a fly off my face. If Hulkamania tries to run wild on me, I could out run him, I could climb a tree and get away. What does that even mean? How does Hulkamania run wild and why should people be afraid? He's not scary, he's not imposing, I wish I was a celeb to go on his shitty show, and kick his ass. Everything he does is shit, WWF, shit when he was big. Hogan knows best, worse than Paris' New BFF. Celebrity Wrestling? Sucks, there's no celebrities on the show, including that shitbag Hogan. His daughter is a bigger celeb then him cause guys actually want to fuck her, he just fucks people over, like Vince, like Shawn. Hulkamania runs wild alright, in the senior citizen home. You guys are bitching about a guy who hasn't wrestled a match in 20 years. Go join hogan in the old people's home. Tom looks like he's 67 years old and you're having a mid life crisis dressing like a fake superhero.
Make fun of me for liking the male stripper, I'm at least still sane.
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Post by sancho231 on Nov 17, 2008 13:19:16 GMT -5
FUCK that shit James,Hogan was and is 1,000 times more important to wrestling that Shawn. sure neither of them will Job to anyone, nut at least Hogan was A draw. the Fed almost went Belly up during HBK's Reign.Shit how many times did that pussy hand over a belt instead of doing a Job??not to mention as i brought up many times if you watch Hogans japan stuff he is a Much Better worker that Shawn.
in a more related note, anything announced for RAW tonite?? oh and i saw Vince mcMahon and Cena at the AC/DC concert thursday, CENA is fuckin BIG
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Post by cactusjames on Nov 17, 2008 15:42:33 GMT -5
LOL first off I was joking. But give me a fucking break, get off the draw malarky. It's the same as saying Babe Ruth put asses in the seat, you're not saying anything new here. How fucking long can Hogan marks hop all over that excuse. The fact he had to turn heel for nWo cause he was so out of touch and irrelevant shows how limited he was/is. And I watched the matches on youtube you said to watch, and they sucked. Punch, punch, punch, sell for 10 mins, boot leg drop. He has the same match in every counry in every state for every show. Fuck him right in his untalented fake tanned asshole. I'm not going to question you who could draw better, I never said people aren't stupid. But to even suggest he could have a better match than HBK, or Flair is fucking crazy talk. When guys in the business say that someone could have a match with a broomstick and get the broomstick over, that's a compliment to a guy who can get it done in the ring. I have NEVER, EVER, in any context whatsoever, heard anyone say that about Hogan. I've heard it about Shawn, I've heard it about Naitch, and not just from their friends either. If you wanna say Hogans the best cause he got more money than anyone fine, but I consider him the last of the freaks from the circus shows back back in the day. They billed him as some superhero and dumb assholes and dumbshit kids feel face first on his dick. No one in the history of wrestling made it so obvious that it was fake or scripted. So you think putting asses in the seats is great, well the 90's were shit due in part mostly because of him. That and the steroid shit. Blame Michaels all you want, but Bret was there, Taker was there, who else can carry that load when this yellow and red shit eating faggot almost put the death nail in wrestling? I say without those guys to keep shit together for Austin, we might not even have TNA now. And seriously, how drunk are you already that Hogan is a better worker than HBK? Even at his age now, HBK can go for 40 minutes to an hour. Hogan could do it in the 70's and that was it. So for a few years, he could pull it off. Meanwhile, Flair was doing that for two decades straight. HBK does it now in his mid 40s and with younger guys who can learn from him. Hogan a better draw than Michaels, yes, worker, fuck no, you're out of your mind. Keep living in the past, time has past you and Hogan by, there are much better wrestlers before and since him. And seriously, the draw thing is only because he was giving a monster push. Cena was pushed to the stars too and couldn't work a match. Now after facing Shawn he can. And again, Hogans best match in 30 yars came at Summerslam against who? ?? HBK. He made Hogan look good and bad at the same time by overselling for his basic malarky moves. HBK overcompensated for hogans weakness and made him look credible again while also showing how useless he was/is in the ring. And Hogan is stupid, I know this I've seen his reality show, there is no way he has better ring psychology than Shawn.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Nov 25, 2008 19:14:46 GMT -5
Ok, for all you Cena haters out there - especially Balls - rating last night up to a 3.3, up from where its been hovering around a 3 since he has been gone. In the most coveted demographics the rating was up as high as 17%.
Folks, and this is coming from a non-Cena fan who knows where the bread is buttered- this guy is MONEY.
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Post by cactusjames on Nov 26, 2008 12:35:32 GMT -5
Yeah but how stupid was that segment booked? He beats the crap out of Jericho(who now looks weak going into a title match), for what to give him an edge? They had him come in through the crowd like DDP, how the fuck is he grittier and edgy now?
Plus I also don't agree with putting the belt on him, that belt has changed hands so much lately, now it looks like it's on Cena for a while, but he's so over he doesn't need the belt. Same with HHH that's why the WWE title is on Edge now. But for whatever reason, Vince thinks Cena needs it in order to be over. And that ratings are going to to back that up for him. Whatever, the title picture is boring again now, the only interesting things on Raw is Orton, the IC tourney, and Steph. Fuck Cena. How ironic is that sig quote Tom, play to the rube, exactly what Vince did and loves to do. BLECH!
Speaking of the IC belt, is this tournament going on just to sell the IC DVD or are they trying make that belt mean something again? Or both?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 8, 2008 9:21:20 GMT -5
Huge Raw tonight. Another one of those dandy 3 hour editions, this time centered around the return of THE SLAMMYS. Good clean fun. But oh, there are some tremendous match-ups they will be showcasing here on free TV instead of building PPVs around em.
Cena vs Edge in a Champ vs Champ battle, non-title. HHH vs old buddy Batista
Jericho vs Jeff Hardy
In that IC shot tourney, Punk vs Morrison, and Kofi vs Rey.
Fantastic show if they give some of these matches decent time.
Meet you there!
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 8, 2008 12:34:25 GMT -5
The 3 hour show tends to make think they will give the matches time, but it wouldn't shock me if they don't and time is wasted on the fucking awards and too many backstage segments. Hopefully I'll be back from Strawberry Fields by 8, if not, I'm not watching till after the show on Tivo. If I'm back in time, I'll be on here bitching about it.
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 8, 2008 12:58:12 GMT -5
What's Strawberry Fields, aside from a Beatles song and a Beatles cover band?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 8, 2008 13:31:03 GMT -5
I think friggin' James is going to Central Park to pay his respects to John Lennon, who was gunned down many years ago on or around this day.
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 8, 2008 13:56:34 GMT -5
I am, went a few years back and had a really good time but I've missed it the last few times, hopefully my cousin doesn't bail on me though, in which case no fucking way am I going by myself in 15 degree weather.
And I won't even be said missing Raw cause I hate the idea of air time being wasted on a fucking award show they should have just done on a Saturday at midnight. But it will get ratings and Vince will do it again next year.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 8, 2008 14:32:27 GMT -5
Well, keep in mind, if it was up to Vince there would be no 3 hour show. He hates the 3 hour format, and so do the writers. This is a USA Network call. So I give the WWE credit for trying to come up with "themes" for these shows- ala King of the Ring or the Slammies. Its something different. Again, there are 52 weeks of programming we are talking about here, I see nothing wrong with throwing in some Slammy stuff in between matches.
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 8, 2008 14:50:25 GMT -5
Or just put on a PPV quality show with a stacked card of tag matches, single matches, title matches etc. instead of a gimmick show with stupid ass awards. How funny would it be if at the end they have to give back the statue? God I hate the Slammys, except for the time HBK bitched out Bret.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 8, 2008 14:56:25 GMT -5
Sorry, but in todays day the Slammys would probably pull a better rating than a show full of stacked matches would. Hell, this show has stacked matches as well. Whatever we want to say about it, the Slammys ARE a drawing point.
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 8, 2008 15:07:35 GMT -5
They would have been a BIGGER drawing point if they promoted the concept a little better.
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 8, 2008 15:16:00 GMT -5
Tom, it's three big matches, a regular raw with filler matches, and way too many comedy segments based on a stupid award gimmick. They should put wrestling first like Smackdown. Besides those 3 matches the rest looks like all garbage. 3 hours and 3 big matches, I'm nervous this could be a train wreck, but I was with King of the Ring too.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 8, 2008 15:55:39 GMT -5
You think Morrison / Punk and Kofi / Rey are "filler matches???"
What the Hell would YOU book?
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 8, 2008 16:19:29 GMT -5
If both those matches total 6 minutes of in ring action, which odds are they will, yeah they are filler. I'll see dopey Santino get molested by Goldust, I'll see Jillian sing for 2 minutes to lose to Melina in 38 seconds, etc. I'm not saying the choices for matches are bad, but they need to be given time to go out there and do their thing. If Rey/Kofi & Punk and Morrison get time to go out there fine, but if the matches are 4 minutes long then this IC Tourney means nothing except to sell DVDs. 3 matches will get good tv time, everything else becomes filler.
There's little tweaks they could do in how they book Raw each week, but Raw is a comedy show, ECW is about getting younger guys over and Smackdown is the only show Out of 8 hours of shows, a little over two hours are focused on wrestling, not skits. It's crazy talk.
And Tom there's no need to use that kind of language, for what it's worth I like your sig video.
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 8, 2008 22:01:18 GMT -5
Hey Balls, something Hogan has never done, win a Slammy A) for anything but more importantly, B)Match of the year. HBK just did. Again. And going by you, Owen goes into the HOF based on Slammy's alone, so based on your scale doesn't that make HBK better than shithead Hogan now? Multiple time Slammy Award winner, and multiple time Match of the Year winner, remarkable.
JBL fucking ruled though, him and Vickie got great heat, and the Styles "Oh My God" stuff was funny. Other than, blah.
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 9, 2008 8:37:08 GMT -5
They didn't have the Slammies for Match of the Year back then. If they did, Hogan would have a bunch. Hogan/Andre for one. Even in defeat, Hogan's matches were more memorable. Hogan/Rock was the match of the decade.
The fact that HBK could get a coveted Slammy only shows how far the Slammies have fallen. This never would have happened if Owen Hart were still alive.
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 9, 2008 11:00:20 GMT -5
Now you're just being fickle. He set a slammy record not likely ever to be broken and you dismiss him......disgusting.
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 9, 2008 18:53:34 GMT -5
Things change. Barry Bonds tainted the HR record. Roger Clemens tainted his career. And Shawn certainly tainted the Slammies. They haven't been nearly as prestigious as when Owen Hart won them.
And Owen Hart was the first 2 time Slammy winner. He paved the way.
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 9, 2008 21:24:01 GMT -5
Yeah but not match of the year, no one is on Shawn's level stealing the show, and they could have been political and given the award to another match since Naitch isn't in the company anymore, but they stuck with the fans, and the fans have said numerous times, Shawn Michaels puts on the match of the year. What's tainted about that, dingus?
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 10, 2008 8:01:25 GMT -5
That was only match of the year because Flair carried Shawn. Flair could have been in the match with a broomstick and that would have been match of the year. When they were picking the match of the year, they just had to be fair to Flair. They're lucky that the match wasn't disqualfied due to HBK's super gay "I'm sorry, I love you" line.
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Post by cactusjames on Dec 10, 2008 17:28:15 GMT -5
PUH-LEASE! Back in mid/late 70's-mid 80s Flair could put the broomstick over. Flair, in orderto have match of the year, NEEDED Shawn in there. HHH wouldn't get that match out of him, Batista couldn't, Jericho couldn't, and I love his feud with HBK, Cena, Orton no one could get that good of a match from Flair than HBK. I saw them at a garden house show and it's in my top 3 best matches I've seen live, the Mania match topped it. And I'd bet anything based on a poll on this board, the Summerslam match with Hogan vs HBK would be a way worse match if HBK wasn't in it.
And going from a pure wrestling fan aspect, no biased judgement here, to me the Summerslam match is better than the Wrestlemania Rock/hogan match. I am not saying in any way was the match bad, but it was heightened due to the total fan reversal of rooting Hogan over Rock. From a scientific standpoint(and I use that term loosely with Hogan, but thats what Michals did), the psychology of the match was great. The match was 2005, what Hogan match was better than that going back 20 years? Warrior? No way, hype wise it was big, Andre wasn't a great match but the slam was memorable, other than that what? HBK gts the best out of everyone and made Flair look better than he has in decades and did the same for Hogan. Live with it.
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Post by MSBNYY on Dec 10, 2008 19:49:58 GMT -5
Not at all. Flair didn't need Shawn. Flair could have had that match by himself and won match of the year.
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Post by 4dogg on Dec 17, 2008 4:36:06 GMT -5
are these 2 colored fellas going to turn good ol' hacksaw duggan into a "gangsta"?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Dec 17, 2008 8:31:14 GMT -5
Maybe he will be Hacksaw Jim "Thuggin'"
Ok, I stole that off the Torch board.
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Post by 4dogg on Dec 17, 2008 18:37:25 GMT -5
i like it
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 15, 2009 19:13:18 GMT -5
Good to see Ted Jr. back in action. I really like this angle. Didn't really see the swerve of getting rid of the Sim Snuka and Shamoo, but I'm fine with it. Besides, it may not be done.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 15, 2009 19:30:54 GMT -5
I saw that swerve coming a million miles away. I just figured Sim and Manu will be packaged as a tag team, and they are not as "polished" as the triumverate of DiBiase, Rhodes, and Orton.
Now Im waiting for them to bring in DH Smith, Davey Boys son. I am a big DH Smith fan.
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