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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 10:11:47 GMT -5
According to a very reliable source in the Wrestling Observer newsletter, here is the working plan for the top 4 battles at Mania.
Batista defending against Taker
Cena defending against Orton AND Edge in a 3-way
Hulk Hogan vs Shane McMahon (with the Great Khali)
HBK (with Trump in his corner) vs Booker T (with McMahon in his corner)
All have vailidity and have been bounced around in one way or another for months. Khali merely being in Shane's corner allows Hogan to not have the worst match ever, yet still be able to "slam a Giant."
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 10:30:41 GMT -5
Well, that doesn't seem as bad as I thought.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 10:37:46 GMT -5
Well, its not locked in stone, but very likely. I dont like Hogan/Shane. I would rather see the trainwreck of Hogan vs Khali - just keep it short. Shane is a showoff, and I am not interested. Booker T is coming out of leftfield, but I could see Booker dropping the match, Vince turning on him afterwards, and a face run for the guy.
It'll work.
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 10:44:52 GMT -5
At least it will be a good match. The Cena/Orton/Edge 3 way will also be VERY good, and now we get to see Rated RKO break up furthered, which I like.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 10:46:22 GMT -5
I am not a big fan of 3-way matches on top, though. Yeah, the players are all strong enough to make a go of it, but I am a traditionalist in that I would prefer a solid one-on-one battle.
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 10:48:34 GMT -5
I also assume that Taker will end the night getting the belt, which I'm ok with, even though I'm not a big fan of Takers. It's a nice thank you to a hard worker who's been in the biz for ages. It's not like he'll keep the belt for two years anyhow.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 11:08:58 GMT -5
I agree, on Taker. Winning the Rumble was another accolade that had eluded him. And finally, after 20 years, the #30 entrant wins one.
Someone was on the Torch board complaining about Taker always getting the 30th draw. This is apparently the 4th time for him, coming in last, and the first time he closed the deal.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 11:11:17 GMT -5
I hate three way matches. I also want a 1 on 1 battle.
Hogan v. Shane doesn't really work for me--not if Kahli is involved for the obvious screwjob. They might as well just have Hogan/Khali.
I'll definitely be rooting for UT.
And yeah, HBK v. Booker is such an odd pairing.
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 11:16:54 GMT -5
Well, Khali is said to be really bad when he leave his feet, with obvious defective legs (Thus, the reason they give him baggy pants to hide them things). Hogan would just bounce off the ropes and hit him a few times, and then get a few forearms to the back.
HBK/Booker T seems odd, but it's a pair of two solid workers, so the match should be top notch.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 11:19:43 GMT -5
Hogan/Khali would make more sense though when cornered by Trump and McMahon. It would be more fun. They could do Booker T v. HBK without that. You're right that it should be a damn good match.
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 13:50:16 GMT -5
I wonder why they didn't book it as such. Maybe they did? Maybe Trump got BOTH HBK and Hogan?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 14:05:25 GMT -5
Please no. Its bad enough Trump is going to be involved with one person.
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 14:23:14 GMT -5
I hope not either, but I don't see how they will set a match up. I can picture Trump bringing out HBK, and then Vince bringing out Booker T, then Kahli, and THEN Trump trump's that by bringing out Hogan.
This might be Wrestlecrap bad. LOL!
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 14:25:10 GMT -5
Nah, I dont think its going to happen like that. As much in love as Vince is with himself, and as much of an apparent mark he is for Trump, I am sure he realizes this show is not just about him. I dont see Hogan having anything to do with that mess.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 14:55:40 GMT -5
It would make more sense. If Khali has that invincibility aura, Vince can bring him out as his chosen wrestler? Who could Trump possibly get from the roster to take on Khali?
Cue Real American. Crowd pop would be great.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 29, 2007 14:57:35 GMT -5
They would get that crowd pop if Hogan was wrestling The Miz.
Enough with the Hogan/Trump/Vince link - thats NOT the plan
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 29, 2007 15:28:26 GMT -5
The Miz should face off with the Genius at Wrestlemania.
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Post by grover on Jan 29, 2007 15:50:57 GMT -5
I wonder what they think of the Miz backstage. The heat that guy gets is funny, I must admit.
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Post by sancho231 on Jan 29, 2007 16:14:53 GMT -5
I ve heard that another possibltiy is Khali vs HBK as Micheals thinks he can "Get something out of him".dont know what the fuck that means. the latter 2 matches that tom mentioned looks shitty just conslidate the trump/Mchahon shit with the hogan match and it would work.I wouldnt mind HBK vs UMAga and Hogan Vs Kahil
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Post by sancho231 on Jan 30, 2007 17:31:01 GMT -5
Per Dave Scherer,PWinsider.com
Cena vs. Undertaker -- WWE Title Batista vs. HBK -- World Heavyweight Title Lashley vs. Holly -- ECW Title Edge vs. Orton
that dont look too bad what yous think of this?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 30, 2007 19:22:43 GMT -5
Yeah, this thing is changing by the minute.
I like this one better, although part of me is interested in seeing Taker and Batista lock horns. Then again, they could do so before Mania, as its being teased. HBK could probably get a good go out of Batista, if anyone can. As to Edge and Orton...who is going to be the face? I would rather see Lashley go against Cor Von....I am a Cor Von mark.
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Post by globix on Jan 30, 2007 22:23:42 GMT -5
would there be an upcoming heel turn, or would there be 2 face vs face title matches?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 30, 2007 23:18:43 GMT -5
Most dont seem to think there will be any turns from the face contingent, but I dont know how likely that is. I could especially see Batista in a heel role.
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Post by globix on Jan 30, 2007 23:23:23 GMT -5
I was thinking that. That would be the most surprising turn at this point. When was the last time a champion turned, heel or face?
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 31, 2007 9:27:46 GMT -5
The ECW title shouldn't even be on the card it's so bad. Bob Holly going for a championship at Wrestlemania? Come on.
I DO like Cena v. Undertaker--as long as UT wins. If Cena ends that streak, I'm only going to hate him more.
HBK v. Batista would be interesting too, though I think I'd like to see Batista hold on to the belt. WM should always try to provide matches you wouldn't see at any other time.
Both those matches fit the bill very well.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 31, 2007 9:35:27 GMT -5
Mania is a four hour show. OF COURSE there is time for a 7 minute ECW match. Again, keep shredding ECW, yet try to explain the solid ratings week to week, that actually are on yet another UPSWING.
There is a lot of sentiment that Cena will be the guy to end Takers streak. After all, Cena will be around for a few more years, and continuing to make the company money. And this will really put him over the top. I can see it happening, but I can also see it going the other way.
HBK would prove his genius if he is able to drag a good match out of Batista, that slug.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 31, 2007 9:57:38 GMT -5
They aren't solid ratings. They are decent for that hour on Sci-Fi Channel.
Cena doesn't need to break Taker's streak to be on top. He's also much better without the belt, and a lot of people can't stand him. The best is when he gets booed out of the arena.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 31, 2007 10:04:34 GMT -5
They aren't solid ratings. They are decent for that hour on Sci-Fi Channel.
Its the top rated show on that network.
Shut the Hell up when you dont know what you are talking about.
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Post by MSBNYY on Jan 31, 2007 10:11:28 GMT -5
That's like saying you were the highest rated show on UPN. It doesn't mean anything because no one is watching any of the other shows.
ECW is garbage. All you need to know is that Test was getting a PPV world title shot. Test! And now Bob Holly?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jan 31, 2007 10:17:02 GMT -5
It means a lot, when the show is nearly doubling the rating of TNA, which is on a more high-profile network, in a better timeslot. It is also besting a lot of established cable shows. And again, the rating is consistent, getting higher in spikes, and making a lot of money for all involved.
Nothing wrong with Bob Holly. Again, I'll use your standard "sticking around a long time means you are doing something good to stay" that you throw in baseball arguments all the time. Holly is the second longest tenured WWE wrestler, behind Undertaker, right now. The Test thing is part of a bigger picture, there will end up being a "story" as to why he is getting all of these title shots despite failing time and again.
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