24 Thread

[JimmyBig]

Jack had all of about 5 total minutes of airtime last night. This season is very disappointing.

[MSBNYY]

Jack finally began to show signs of breaking out of his killing slump, as he shot and killed his captor at the beginning of tonight's episode. His father also got into the act, and even besting his heroic son, killing not one, but two people. Of course, one of the people dad killed was a shocking ending.

But the bottom line is that Jack is back in the killing bad guys mode. Next week is a two hour event, so hopefully he will improve that KPH.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 3
===============
Season 6 episodes: 7
Season 6 KPH: 0.429
Total series episodes: 127
Total Kills: 138
KPH: 1.087

[MSBNYY]

Jack is definitely off to a slow killing start, but he did knock off two more bad guys last night. Although he didn't kill anyone in the second hour, he does have 3 kills in the last 3 episodes, and last night marked his first multi-kill episode of the season. Still, Jack needs to pick up the pace. Although his Season 6 KPH rose, his overall KPH did slightly drop.

The episodes themselves were solid, and the plots began to move forward. Wayne Palmer is rivaling President Logan with his stupidity. The only difference is I'm not sure the writers are trying to make Palmer out to be a fool.

I wanted to vomit when he said, "if one more nuclear bomb goes off, we're going to have a war." Like ONE wasn't enough? One thing I do find ridiculous is that Wayne Palmer would choose Tom Lennox to be an advisor. Similarly, I can't see that vice president being chosen as his running mate. Both men are so ideologically different. It's one thing to balance the ticket and have differing opinions, but they are so different it would be like President Bush having Barrack Obama as the Vice President. There's no way these guys would all be in the same political party.

But overall, I was pleased that they aren't dragging stuff around, like Lost does. The plots are moving very quickly, especially involving Jack's father.

Good doubleheader.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 5
===============
Season 6 episodes: 9
Season 6 KPH: 0.556
Total series episodes: 129
Total Kills: 140
KPH: 1.085

[elliejay21]

I think they killed off Dr. Romano aka Jack's brother too soon. I wanted to hate him a little longer.

Rena Sofer has aged quite well (MUCH better than the chick from Designing Women who was the crazy first lady last season) and the kid is definitely Jack's son.

For those not paying attention, Jack took 2 bathroom breaks this season - 1st hour, he got cleaned up after getting out of prison (he surely took a shit along with the shower and shave,) and he got cleaned up and changed his clothes after escaping from Fayed, presumably in the bathroom.

[grover]

I don't see it as a those two being so different, I think the unthinkable situation made them turn to different sides.

I saw the first episode. Second episode I'll watch tomorrow.

Yeah, it's just ok.

[MSBNYY]

Decent episode last night. Happily, Jack got to add two more dead hostiles to his resume. Jack's father is an interesting character. Twice, Jack's father had him dead, and twice, he spared him. Yet twice he really did try to kill him, and Jack saved himself.

Should be interesting seeing Logan back. I knew he was coming back, though it's weird how he could be in a position to help anyone.

As the stats show, Jack's KPH is slowly creeping up. Hopefully, he'll kill a couple of more hostiles next week. That said, the previews indicate that's not likely.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 7
===============
Season 6 episodes: 10
Season 6 KPH: 0.7000
Total series episodes: 130
Total Kills: 142
KPH: 1.092

[MSBNYY]

Jack's killing momentum stalled a bit last night as he spent most of the episode dealing with Logan. I'm really beginning to like Morris "the Drill Bit" OBrian. For whatever reason, I find his suffering to be funny. I laughed hard when he was caught by Chloe taking a shit. This was really just a filler hour, setting up for the next stage in the season.

I noticed the code to set off the bomb was 624. Show name? 24. Season 6. Nice.

I wonder if Palmer and Bashir will make it.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 7
===============
Season 6 episodes: 11
Season 6 KPH: 0.636
Total series episodes: 131
Total Kills: 142
KPH: 1.084

[JimmyBig]

Did anything happen after the bomb exploded on the President in last weeks episode that is worth a shit? I fell asleep and missed the last 20 minutes.

[MSBNYY]

Nothing.

[JimmyBig]

This season is still just not doing it for me. I do however like that the Warden from Shawshank is the Sec. of Defense.

[MSBNYY]

Seems that they are setting up for a big episode next week. Lots of chess pieces moving forward. Is Logan a good guy now? Or does he have an agenda? Why did Jack just let himself get caught like that?

Justin said it best. He's still Jack Bauer, and cannot be killed. I agree that this season is off. It's still a good show, but not as good as it has been. I think a big reason for that is that a lot of the great supporting characters are dead or not on the show this season. Even Dr. Bashir, a decent new character, is now dead.

Good work by Tom Lennox. Chad Lowe may have to go down as the dumbest bad guy ever. Tom Lennox pretty much completed his face turn. I like the new President.

But Jack's kill count is way down.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 7
===============
Season 6 episodes: 12
Season 6 KPH: 0.583
Total series episodes: 132
Total Kills: 142
KPH: 1.076

[IronHorse4]

He is not the new President. He has not been sworn in as the President, so he is still the Vice President, only with executive powers.

And it irritated me that Jack went right for that door as if no one was waiting on the other side. But it just lends itself to his head never completely being in the game since the imprisonment in China. And that Russian dude's fate was sealed the second Jack asked him for help.

[MSBNYY]

Ok fine. He's still the VP, but he SHOULD be the President.

The China thing is a hell of a built in excuse for bad moves by Jack Bauer.

By the way, next week's episode looks good. Jack is primed to kill some people, and we get the return of Aaron Pearce AND the introduction of Ricky Schroeder.

Jack Bauer, Aaron Pearce AND the Ricker? Terrorists beware.

I might add that upon his return, Aaron Pearce will be the second coolest character on the show, bumping Bill Buchanan to 3rd. Only Secretary Heller could possibly bump the chain down another peg.

[MSBNYY]

So last night's episode was solid on all fronts except maybe the old people love triangle.

Aaron Pearce should be kicking ass, not fucking the former first lady. Looks like he lost some weight though.
The idea of an insane woman wielding a knife isn't too bright and made for the predictable outcome.

But they promised the most shocking moment in 24 history in the promos. I didn't see it. What happened to Logan wasn't all that shocking, and certainly doesn't hold a candle to President Palmer and Michelle Dressler getting blown away at the same time, with Tony Almeida dying later in the season.

At one point, I thought they may kill off Jack Bauer, and while that would be shocking, it would also ruin the show, since most of its popularity is due to him.

Great introduction to Ricky Schroeder aka The Ricker. I think this is actually the first show I watched with him on it since Silver Spoons and it's good to see him once again referring to himself as Ricky and sporting the same haircut he had in the 1980s.

He will make a fine addition to the show. As if being "The Ricker" wasn't enough, I really enjoyed watching him bully Morris "The Drill Bit" O'Brian.

One problem with this show is that all the great supporting characters seem to be dying. I think that's the biggest reason people feel the show isn't as good this season.

Looks like Jack actually got credit for 3 kills last night. I was only 100 percent sure of one, mostly sure on 2, and missed #3. But the Bauer Kill Count website gave him 3. Given that I've only disagreed with one of their calls over the years, I'll trust their judgement, since they do have some level of photographic backup.

This puts Jack at 145 total kills, which is 5 kills away from the milestone 150th kill.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 10
===============
Season 6 episodes: 13
Season 6 KPH: 0.769
Total series episodes: 133
Total Kills: 145
KPH: 1.090

[MSBNYY]

Despite another week with very little Jack, our hero edged toward a milestone. With two official kills (the third victim sadly did not die), Jack's lifetime total has reached 147. Reporters will be following Bauer around next week as the 150th kill cannot be too far behind.

Remember there is a controversial kill that was taken off the board due to the indirectness. After taking a bullet for Jack, Paul Raines was on the operating table in delicate surgery. Jack burst in with a patient of his own, and forced the doctor at gunpoint to stop working on Raines and start working on his more important patient. Raines died as a result of the neglect. While Jack is certainly responsible for the kill, it doesn't quite fall under the category of a pure Bauer kill. It was more of a manslaughter. So that one comes off the board and we are at 147.

With 5 kills over the past 2 weeks, Jack is certainly overcoming a slow killing start to the season. Look for good things from Jack in the second half of day 6.

As for the rest of the episode, we learned that Audrey Raines is dead. I can't say that I care that much. As long as her father is alive, all is well.

We got no update on the Logan issue. I hope that we get something else out of Aaron Pierce this season. The second coolest character on the show needs some more screen time.

I wonder what The Ricker did in Denver. I bet Derek Taylor had something to do with it. He was always getting the Ricker into trouble before he met Alfonzo.

I think the Ricker was pissed because Jack hogged all the killing.

So we have ANOTHER mole in CTU. Maybe these terrorists wouldn't have so much success if they didn't keep letting moles into CTU. Hopefully things won't play out that way. Obviously, the chick from Vegas Vacation is innocent. First, she's too hot, and second, too obvious.

I think they should have accused Morris "the Drill Bit" O'Brian. Even if there was no evidence, they should have tortured Morris. Maybe they could have convinced themselves that Nadia cared about Morris, and to get Nadia to talk, they needed to slap Morris around a bit more. At least have the Ricker slam Morris' head against a desk. There's just something entertaining about Morris being tortured.

It should happen every week.

And I like this Vice President. Nuke those bastards! There's no way someone so politically different from Wayne Palmer would ever be his running mate, but hey, let's roll with it. And while we're at it, let's kill Sherry Palmer too because I don't like her.

They really need to do more with Jack in the upcoming weeks. But anyway, here's are the updated stats:

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 12
===============
Season 6 episodes: 14
Season 6 KPH: 0.857
Total series episodes: 134
Total Kills: 147
KPH: 1.097

[IronHorse4]

I believe Audrey Raines is alive and was traded for Jack. She was a strong woman, and I believe she is being detained in order to handle the cooking and cleaning for some of the more important officials in the Chinese government. These skills are worth more to the Chinese than expending energy torturing Jack, who cannot be destroyed anyway.

[baldvinny]

my theory: she is dead, and they are setting up the plot for 24 the movie. jack is going to go to china and hunt down audreys killers and avenge her death

[MSBNYY]

That's not a bad theory. But at the same time, she could also be ALIVE, and the movie could be a similar plot.

[grover]

Tonight's episode had to be one of he worst 24 episodes I've ever saw.

24 is now down to getting retards to help catch terrorists. That's beyond jump the shark. That's jumping over the fucking Moon.

And that passionate kiss Milo gave Nadia made me vomit.

Oh, and Wayne Palmer is surprisingly well spoken for a guy who just came out of a coma. I'm impressed. It's like he was never 10 feet from a bomb blast to begin with!!

[MSBNYY]

The retard rules!!!! I think he's the mastermind. I just wish Jack had shot him.

Nadia got Miloed. How funny would it have been if she went to Buchanan and cried sexual harrassment. She gets falsely accused of terrorism, tortured, let go, asked to go back to work, and then fondled. Other than that, how was her day?

And I like how they teased The Ricker being bad, but then he wasn't. I should have known better than to doubt the Ricker.

I was hoping the nuke would have been launched on the mysterious Middle Eastern country. Wayne Palmer being ok was a stretch and he was a lousy president to begin with.

But most important, we can add 2 more kills to Jack's count! One of his shooting victims died on the way to the hospital, and he killed some jerk in the SUV while protected the retard.

With 2 kills this week, the next kill is indeed the milestone 150th kill.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 14
===============
Season 6 episodes: 15
Season 6 KPH: 0.933
Total series episodes: 135
Total Kills: 149
KPH: 1.104

[grover]

I love how Schroder is sporting the same haircut he had on Silver Spoons.

[MSBNYY]

I know! That's the best part of his character. I thought I was the only one who took note of that. He is still The Ricker.

[IronHorse4]

It was kinda hard to believe The Ricker as a heel anyway. Kinda like when Hogan went to NWO.

[MSBNYY]

So I think one problem with this season so far is that there hasn't been enough Jack Bauer this season. He seems to be making rare appearances throughout the episode.

I think the VP is the man. He managed to play Wayne Palmer like a fiddle. Nuke those bastards!!! Maybe it was the adrenilin that manages to help you recover from bomb blasts.

Either way, we're going to be some glowing terrorists next week!

That challenge was laughable. If we're dealing with technicalities, then they could argue that a majority is 8 votes. Even without Karen Hayes' vote, they only had 7 votes. Yeah, they had a plurality, but that is not a majority. At best, President Palmer, who would still be in charge, would have to appoint a new cabinet member, have that cabinet member approved by the Senate, and then vote. Of course, Palmer would just appoint Hayes, and bam.

Could have been the first time a president was declared incompetent for being a pussy.

Look what happens when the Ricker works with Nadia. They managed to work together, and they found their way. They really did learn all about those things you just can't buy. I wonder if Nadia wants to suck the dicker, of the Ricker.

As for Jack, it was a very historical night as Jack Bauer recorded his 150th and 151st kill. I admit being extra psyched at the milestone. The 2 kills this week finally brought Jack's KPH up to 1.000. Still not at his career pace, but he seems to be kicking it into a new gear as the season hits the final 3rd. Now if only he could get more airtime.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 16
===============
Season 6 episodes: 16
Season 6 KPH: 1.000
Total series episodes: 136
Total Kills: 151
KPH: 1.110

[MSBNYY]

Outstanding performance by Jack Bauer last night. Outstanding. Clearly, this was one of the better episodes of the season and contained a lot of what the season was lacking to date--namely, it had a LOT of Jack Bauer.

Jack Bauer and the Ricker. It really doesn't get much better than that.

To the chorus of Silver Spoons:

Together, they're gonna stop Fayed....
Together, making the bad guys dead....
Recovering nukes and making Russians cry....
If you mess with our country....
You will dieeeeee!!!!!

Anyway, back to the review...

Stupid subplot alert--Milo being jealous of the Ricker because Nadia showed some concern. That was funny. He should have blown off some steam and slapped Morris "the Drill Bit" O'Brian around.

Wayne Palmer--can recover from a coma in minutes, but he shows he's still hurt by grimacing. He admitted the obvious, "I'm not David." No shit stupid. He should have nuked the evil country.

I like that they ended the nuke threat early. They still have 7 episodes to go, which is plenty of time to deal with the Audrey plot. Not every disaster takes exactly 24 hours to finish. Jack wrapped this one up.

Maybe the final 7 hours will focus not so much on saving the world, but on some payback for the Chinese. I'm not really thrilled that this plot line isn't over, but hopefully by the end of the 7 hours, it will be.

I realize the idea that the phone call came 5 seconds after Fayed was stopped is far fetched, but what are they going to do, show Jack take a shit and shower for 45 minutes before the call comes?

It's still TV.

Hopefully, Jack will keep teaming with The Ricker.

On to the killing. This was NOT a record setting death spree for Jack. He killed 12 people back in season 4, episode 6. But this was his best run since then, topping the 6 deaths in episode 23, season 5. After a very slow start this year, Jack certainly got his groove back. For the first time this season, Jack's seasonal KPH is over his career KPH.

One more kill, and we are guaranteed a seasonal KPH of 1.000, which is below his career average, but still the killing equivilent of a .300 batting average.

Even the Ricker had nothing to say about Jack's amazing killing spree. You would think terrorists would learn, but oh well.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 23
===============
Season 6 episodes: 17
Season 6 KPH: 1.353
Total series episodes: 137
Total Kills: 158
KPH: 1.153

[MSBNYY]

Not a bad night in 24 land, as this episode began the set up for the final arc of the season. For me, it seemed that the roles were reversed with Palmer and Daniels.

Palmer is clearly the more liberal of the two. Yes, the loyalty to Bauer would be there, but I can't see a left leaning president agreeing to risk upsetting the Russians to get a hostage away from the Chinese.

Daniels meanwhile, would seem more likely to take the risk. While balance the ticket or not, there's no way Daniels would ever be Wayne Palmer's running mate, as the more conservative of the two, Daniels would seem to be willing to risk the consequences in order to save the life of Audrey. It's not like Audrey Raines is merely Bauer's slam piece. She's a valuable member of the government, who is also the daughter of the former secretary of defense.

It makes perfect sense that the full resources of the government would be given to Jack to extract her from the Chinese. It's in the best interests of the US not only because of Audrey's father and her own record, but simply because she is arguably privy to information herself that probably would be best NOT given to the Chinese.

It's interesting how the producers have no problem naming the Chinese and Russians as bad guys, but refuse to ever name a country in the middle east.

No kills this week, breaking Bauer's consecutive hour killing streak at 5.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 23
===============
Season 6 episodes: 18
Season 6 KPH: 1.278
Total series episodes: 138
Total Kills: 158
KPH: 1.145

[MSBNYY]

This was possibly the worst episode in 24 history. Instead of Jack kicking ass, we have a dirty old man president, Morris "the Drill Bit "O'Bryan whining, and the Ricker looking bad for doing his job. Oh, and Jack was on the show too--for like 5 minutes.

And Bill Buchanon gets sold out? Maybe the reason the show appears to be in decline is that they keep taking all the good characters, and either killing them or ruining them.

Bill Buchanon is currently the second coolest character on the show. Don't mess with him.

This episode was actually kind of boring. If it wasn't the end of the season, I'd probably watch Heroes live and 24 on DVR.

Jack did manage to kill off 2 Chinese bad guys when the Ricker screwed up Jack's plan.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 25
===============
Season 6 episodes: 19
Season 6 KPH: 1.316
Total series episodes: 139
Total Kills: 160
KPH: 1.151

[MSBNYY]

This week's episode was a little better than last week's. But there's too much soap opera shit going on. As always, the best part of the episode involved Jack.

It was nice to see the return of Secretary Heller, but I hope it's more than just a weak cameo. It was an interesting exchange at the end, but what I wonder is, how did Heller get to CTU so fast, and in a suit, at 2am?

No kills for Jack this week, but it was cool seeing The Ricker take a dive. Not that Bauer couldn't have kicked his ass anyway, but The Ricker has morals. He's a good egg.

I still can't watch Morris "The Drill Bit" O'Brian without laughing. What a wuss. I love when he gets slapped around and yelled at. Morris is a great punching bag. I think that they should have suspected he was the spy.

Anyhow, here are the stats. No kills this week.

Season 1: 10
Season 2: 30
Season 3: 14
Season 4: 43
Season 5: 38
Season 6: 25
===============
Season 6 episodes: 20
Season 6 KPH: 1.250
Total series episodes: 140
Total Kills: 160
KPH: 1.143

[grover]

The dialog on the show is killing me. It's beyond abysmal.

[MSBNYY]

It's been a little to soapy this year. They definitely need to change some things up.

Any writer on that show that suggests having a mole infiltrate either CTU or the White House should be fired.