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Post by cactusjames on May 12, 2007 11:07:55 GMT -5
First Imus, then JV and Elvis and now the boys. Is anyone expecting them to keep their jobs? What the fuck happened to freedom of speech and the security blanket of satelite radio? For people to get so outraged cause of a homeless guy, how do people function in the world?
If you are in the city this weekend with nothing to do go see James Norden at Carolines comedy club, 2 shows tonight and one tomorrow, the little fella needs all the help he can get if the boys are being thrown off the air.....again.
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Post by $heriff Tom on May 12, 2007 18:12:58 GMT -5
Who is James Norden? I know Jim Norton, not a James Norden. Anyway, its not just the white guys getting the boot. One of the sidekicks on Power 105 was fired for telling what is really just a playground joke. When talking about albums people wanted to hear, someone said "Nickleblack." And the guy said, "thats a Jewish black guy."
Yeah, its insane.
But, James, its not the "homeless guy." After he made the original comments, Anthony piled on with, "yeah, can you imagine Condi's look of disgust with Homeless whoever on her" and much more. The first lady came up too. It was a stupid thing for them to go on about, in these times.
How corny is it that JV and Elvis were fired for REPLAYING a bit that flew under the radar a couple of times before, but its simply a bad time right now.
O&A will be gone within days, and so will Free-FM as we know it, here comes music once again.
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Post by cactusjames on May 12, 2007 21:07:55 GMT -5
First, the Norden thing is a joke Norton himself joked about a few times, poking fun at himself.
Secondly, who cares what who said, it was XM, I thought that was the place where you could say what you want. And it's the radio, to get a thought across you have to speak, Anthony was pointing out the fact that whoever would be disgusted being raped by a homeless guy, seems sort of accurate to me, it's not like he encouraged the guy to follow through with his ramblings, it's not like Ant gave him money for bus fare to get to DC. It's mind boggling you can't say what you want to on an outlet where they say it's ok. It just seems like this is being made out to be a bigger deal than it is. Who fucking cares?
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Post by cactusjames on May 14, 2007 10:43:02 GMT -5
The boys will be fine, just going to be walking on egg shells for awhile. It's funny how nothing or nobody can stop the boys except the boys themselves. I was worried if they got the boot there would be no virus tour cause I alrady got my tix for Jones Beach. Anyway, it's all good, they had Ozzy on this morning, Ozzy always rules and now it's time to tune into Ron and Fez.
I am a bit dissapointed, I heard the jocks that were aiting in the wings for OnAs spot was the radio tandem of Ramon and Frunkis, which I heard was amazing.
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Post by IronHorse4 on May 14, 2007 10:44:47 GMT -5
The boys pussed out. All that shit they said defending Imus, and they caved themselves. Getting less and less impressed with them by the day.
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Post by cactusjames on May 14, 2007 10:54:39 GMT -5
They half assed the "apology", they were very insincere about it, I got no problem with it. I'd be pissed at XM if I were them but they could have been fired from two gigs, and having them off the air would hurt the whole thing they're doing. They've been bashing Sharpton and ever special group for weeks and they're the only ones fighting it, I got no problem with them giving a half assed apology statement so they can still bust chops.
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Post by $heriff Tom on May 14, 2007 14:44:18 GMT -5
Rumor I have heard is that "the boys" will be finishing up after the events that are scheduled (a poker tourney? and the travelling virus tour) - after those events are done, CBS will be pulling the plug.
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Post by cactusjames on May 14, 2007 16:51:26 GMT -5
CBS has been known, it's XM that was the question mark. Op has been saying for weeks "You're listening to O and A on Free FM, but for how long?" Even before Imus they were bashing Free FM live for not backing them on certain bits etc. As long as they stay on XM I don't give a shit, I don't hear the shit that gets dumped out on cause XM airs it unedited. I look foward to the day all three say your moms box on Free FM.
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Post by IronHorse4 on May 15, 2007 13:51:57 GMT -5
Ron and Fez just read a press release whereby Opie and Anthony have been suspended by XM for a period of 30 days.
I don't know if that goes for CBS Radio as well. Would seem odd to me that satellite would suspend but not CBS.
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Post by $heriff Tom on May 15, 2007 14:29:04 GMT -5
I am still reading rumors they willl be gone from Free-FM by the end of the month.
Here's text from that release. Seems not only was XM unhappy with what was said, but its implied this is a wake-up call to O&A for not taking this seriously....I bolded that for those who would normallly choose to ignore that.
PRESS RELEASE: XM Radio Suspends Opie & Anthony WASHINGTON and NEW YORK, May 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- XM Radio announced today that the company has suspended Gregg "Opie" Hughes and Anthony Cumia, hosts of "The Opie & Anthony Show" and ceased broadcast of the show for 30 days, effective immediately. XM Radio deplored the comments aired on "The Opie & Anthony Show" last week. At the time, the company strongly expressed its views to Opie and Anthony, and they issued an immediate apology. Comments made by Opie and Anthony on yesterday's broadcast put into question whether they appreciate the seriousness of the matter. The management of XM Radio decided to suspend Opie and Anthony to make clear that our on-air talent must take seriously the responsibility that creative freedom requires of them. As a company, XM provides customers with tools to control what they listen to on XM. "The Opie & Anthony Show" appears on one of XM's explicit language channels (XL). Whenever a radio is tuned to an explicit language channel, the letters "XL" continuously appear on the screen. XM frequently mentions on its explicit language channels that the content may be inappropriate for certain listeners and tells how to "block" channels that feature this type of content. Channel blocking is available through xmradio.com or by calling 1-800-XMRADIO.
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Post by cactusjames on May 15, 2007 14:54:22 GMT -5
Mother fucking scumbags, this sucks.
Plus read the last few lines of that press release, you can have the fucking shit blocked if you're offended. This is almost as bad as the stupid twat who boycotted Married with Children. If you don't like you don't have to watch or listen or whatever. How is that a hard concept to grasp for people? This world is full of maniacs.
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Post by $heriff Tom on May 15, 2007 15:06:44 GMT -5
James, I think you are missing the point here..
They were NOT suspended for what was said. They were suspended for not taking the situation seriously, a situation that puts XM in a bad situation, no matter how much you cut it.
This is NOT a Freedom of Speech issue. When the Government attacks what you say, that IS a Freedom of Speech isssue. When your EMPLOYER tells you not to say something, or something you said is wrong, that is THEIR right. O&A DO have a right to say just about anything, given to them by XM...when before this and these insane comments did they ever get in trouble from XM?
They were stupid things to say, and borderline illegal. Talking about punching the Sec of State in the face while you rape her....eh, they are lucky charges are not being pressed. I say HOORAY to XM for the suspension, as O&A are laughing it off, and they should be shutting up about now.
At the same time, the Imus and JV and Elvis firings were horsecrap, and that came from loud groups of people holding too much sway, and companies showing no balls in not backing them. Those situations, from what was said and how they were handled by the personallities after the fact, are totally different.
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Post by cactusjames on May 15, 2007 15:23:07 GMT -5
THEY DIDN"T SAY IT! Someone else did, a homeless fucking guy who also talked about another crime, punching old ladies in the head and robbin them and Penn. I get the point, and I disagree with the employer thing. Yeah they have their policies and that's fine, but if you're getting what you want from your on air talent, ratings, money etc. it'd be good to stick by them instead of caving to the special interest groups complaining once in a while. JV and Elvis got suspended for doing shit Margaret Cho does all the time, but the fucking asians get pissed off two white guys made some jokes?
And please don't tell me you think the shit the homeless guy said is actally possible? It's so fucking outrageous and impossible it's funny. No homeless person will get within 25 feet of Condi or the fucking first lady. Not only is this a world full of maniacs but also high strung people who can't fucking relax. There was no feesible way to take what Homeless charlie said as a real posing threat. The war on terror has hit our shores, it's cause of Homeless Charlie claiming he was going to rape some white house people on some satelite radio show that has and XL logo on it. This is fucking absurd. Go ahead and argue about the taste of humor about what was said, but don't say they don't have a right to air what some cracked out homeless dude is saying. Especially cause it's so far from the realm of actually happening it's something a toddler would beleive like the fucking tooth fairy. And XM and the sponsors and advertisers who our cowering away and giving in are nothing but fucking pussies who can't take any fucking heat whatsoever. Fuk the compliants from small ass special interest groups, or any groups for that matter, the higher ups have no fucking balls.
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Post by $heriff Tom on May 15, 2007 15:35:14 GMT -5
James, they certainly partook in the conversation, it was NOT a one-sided monologue. Anthony in particular was saying, "can you imagine the look on Condi's face with you on top of her...." and the bit went on and on. You're taking the wrong defense, what they encouraged and dragged out until Laura Bush and others were also named, was stupid.
And no one said the Secret Service is searching out this homeless man, the bottom line is its AGAINST THE LAW to threaten or discuss violence towards anyone in Government. Last I checked Condi Rice and Laura Bush are in/around Government, and laughing about raping them and punching them in the face while you do so is discussing violence.
I'm glad they are suspended.
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Post by elliejay21 on May 15, 2007 15:42:38 GMT -5
OK, I don't follow this garbage... I am a strong supporter of the 1st Amendment and all Constitutional rights, and I CHOOSE to avoid Opie & Anthony.
I think O&A are classless, unfunny & I pray that *their own offensiveness* will get their ratings to drop and their bosses to fire them, because I DO believe they are horrible role models for our children and an OBVIOUS bad influence on young, impresionable idiots, like little homo Jimmy...
BUT did they really go on so rant about raping the Secretary of State and the First Lady??? That crosses the line on SO many levels, that I am seriously nauseous.
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Post by grover on May 15, 2007 15:43:43 GMT -5
James, they fucked up, and were pushing the envelope during the wrong fucking time. During all this Imus shit going on, that was the last thing they needed to do.
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Post by IronHorse4 on May 15, 2007 15:46:29 GMT -5
They didn't say the shit. They were told it was wrong when they did it. They read the apology.
I pay for this service. I don't have a problem with what they do. Sometimes I wish they were more funny, but now I am losing a product I pay for for 1 month. I am asking XM for a credit for the following 30 days on all of my XM radios. If I don't receive one, I am cancelling my service.
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Post by King98er on May 15, 2007 15:46:58 GMT -5
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Post by cactusjames on May 15, 2007 15:47:38 GMT -5
I'm glad your glad, but they aren't cartoon characters, this isn't a sitcom. They have to paint a picture to the audience, and describe whatever joke or image or whatever they want to get across. Of course it wasn't one sided, they are hosts of a talk show. And again, it is far fetched to think that it's actaully possible for Homeless charlie to pull off what he said. What are they, or Anth specifically suppose to do, ignore what the guy is saying, and tell him we can't comment we might get in trouble and what you're saying cause other people might think it is wrong? Jesus this world is full of crazy people.
And come on, you act like no one famous or otherwise has ever said they want to punch out some other celeb. To think it's possible to do what the guy said is crazy talk.
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Post by IronHorse4 on May 15, 2007 15:48:51 GMT -5
Ok, that makes more sense.
I will not send my e-mail.
Well, they fucked up. They are idiots then.
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Post by elliejay21 on May 15, 2007 15:49:51 GMT -5
I do not know why you'd pay to listen to them, but I support your quest for a refund from XM, if you pay specifically to listen to O&A, and lose that ability for a month. I'd even suggest to Jackass that he seek the same financial renumeration, as it is my understanding he also pays for the same service, for primarily the same reason.
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Post by cactusjames on May 15, 2007 16:42:28 GMT -5
A bunch of shit I have on tv and news reports I'm reading are saying a bunch of shit, fox news said cbs but I don't know if they mean XM instead or both. Forget this post, all I know is XM is replaying ron and fez now instead of o and a. If they don't hve anything tonorrow then i don't know.
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Post by Jackass on May 15, 2007 18:40:32 GMT -5
They are pussies. Their show has gotten less funny in the past year, but as I noted before, their show is still funnier than the vast majority of what is on the radio.
They are stupid fucks, and I am losing my patience with them and their whining about getting picked on, and the attempts to conflate their employers standards with Freedom of Speech.
Dopes.
They are a small component of the reason that I have the subscription, so even if they didn't return I would keep the subs I have.
Ron and Fez 4 Life. MONKEYHOUSE!!!
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Post by cactusjames on May 15, 2007 19:19:31 GMT -5
Yeah I'm tired of that shit too, when they don't stay on one topic for an hour(i.e. Stern, Imus, freedom of speech and how much XM and Free FM suck) they're good. I've def noticed a steep drop off in humor, but I also can't hold it against them cause like you said, it's better than some of the other shows that I've occasionally had on and also they have to come up with content to fill what used to be 5 hours of air time. Now I won't act like I've heard a lot of other talk radio but what I have heard sucks balls. To quote O&A, the morning zoo shows stink, most of the shit after O%A sucks, and you won't have any of those guys do anything other than stupid bits that end up killing people. Sorry I'll take the show that's funny sometimes that talks about raping people over the morning show with stupid contest that kills their listeners. And as annoying as it can get and be, will anyone else openly discuss the double standard in everyday shit concerning this country?
That said, Jackass is right, monkey house rocks the fat ass.
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Post by cactusjames on May 16, 2007 10:53:48 GMT -5
I'm reading from the various OnA websites and such that XM has already fired them and is trying to get as much out of the 30 day thing. I read that within a few hours of the suspension over 3000 people already canceled. I can only imagine what it's up to now. I got a feeling XM is going to see a big dent in subs in the very near future. And also I've read CBS has stated they rae sepearte from XM and not taking any action against the boys, so we'll see. This is fucking de ja vu again.
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Post by $heriff Tom on May 16, 2007 10:59:03 GMT -5
Whatever cancellations XM sees over this is a spit in the bucket. We are talking about a service that has MILLIONS of subscribers. PLEASE do not think that XM is crying over all of this...I am sure the thought of O&A "pests" cancelling their service crossed their minds before they made their decision.
Also, how stupid are the "pests" who are destroying all their XM equipment....if O&A DO end up going back in 30 days, have fun buying new equipment, you jackoffs! And what of the retards who are "cancelling" - what to do when Opie and Anthony come back? RESUBSCRIBE? What a bunch of idiots.
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Post by kingdzbws on May 16, 2007 11:08:06 GMT -5
Destroying your own property does nothing to XM. Morons who smash their sets have no brains whatsoever. Justin has the perfect plan. Call XM and DEMAND a credit for a month of service. If you subscribed because of them, you shouldn't have to pay while they're off the air.
When YES and the cable companies had a dispute people received a credit for the time YES was off didn't they? Same thing, I say.
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Post by cactusjames on May 16, 2007 11:15:51 GMT -5
I agree samshing their shit is retarded, but they aren't coming back. And the cancelations will have a nice dent, cause out of the 5 or 6 million subs, how many bought it soley for O&A? I'm willing to bet it's a lot more than you think.
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Post by $heriff Tom on May 16, 2007 11:59:26 GMT -5
LOL!
XM will be just fine without O&A.
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Post by IronHorse4 on May 16, 2007 12:22:58 GMT -5
You are severely underestimating the amount of people who bought XM primarily for O&A.
XM certainly isn't, because I bet in the first few hours since the merger announcement, they credited 5 figures worth of refunds for the upcoming 30 days. I didn't buy XM primarily for O&A, but according to XM I did, which is why I was credited $20. All CS reps were authorized to refund $12.95 at the drop of a hat. $20 took a little pushing.
The people who cancelled XM because of this flap....I'm sure a lot of them won't come back, when they can still get O&A free for 3 hours a day.
If O&A are fired from XM, the drop in subs will be substantial. I will not drop XM, because I like the programming, including Ron and Fez, MLB, and the NHL. But fuck XM...let them think I'm dropping my 3 radio subs.
Funny part is, if O&A do get fired and the people leave with them, it will only further facilitate a merger, which means Mel and Howard win.
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