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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 2, 2007 20:52:58 GMT -5
Thank you Cactus Loser for stating the obvious. The point, as has been stated all along. They can adapt. For 4 weeks. It's not that big of a deal.
House show tickets are usually sold without a card. Again, not a problem. Ass.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 2, 2007 20:54:59 GMT -5
House show tickets are usually sold without a card.
And yet WWE, acknowledging a DEPTH PROBLEM, have cancelled an entire swing of house shows at the end of September, costing them literally hundreds of thousands of dollars.
With all these TOP NAMES OUT they can not comfortably put on a show the fans will be happy about, lacking the star power.
Your point?
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 2, 2007 21:00:52 GMT -5
The point is that they are going to be fine. Keep making it out like it's a super disaster. Hundreds of thousands of dollars? That's chump change to them. As for house shows, they seem to have plenty going on... www.wwe.com/schedules/events/
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Post by grover on Sept 2, 2007 21:11:40 GMT -5
Balls, WWE is not going to go off the air, for fucks sake, the product is going to be really shitty. THATS out concern, you doof. Not that you know, since you only watch 2 minutes of RAW a week. That's why you're the only one shrugging it off. You only watch Deuce & Domino and Hacksaw Duggan.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 2, 2007 21:31:16 GMT -5
These are not much in the way of spoilers at this point, so here goes...
Tonights Raw taping - no Kennedy at all. Figure him suspended. Umaga not only dropped his strap, he was left laying and bloody at the end of the show...consider him suspended. No King Booker. Most likely suspended. And John Cena beat commish Regal up, and Vince ended up telling Coach later that its all up to him to take care of things again, so consider him suspended.
Orton was announced to be wrestling Cena at Unforgiven, so consider him NOT suspended.
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Post by grover on Sept 2, 2007 22:40:45 GMT -5
Ok, so there is a bright spot in all this. Still, this throws a wrench into whatever angles they had going.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 2, 2007 23:20:37 GMT -5
Did it ever....Kennedy DID show up, but after it all pans out, he is NOT the son. And after you see the show, you will figure out that yes, he is one of the suspended ones.
Looks like this changed a major angle, as from all accounts Kenned y WAS the bastard son. Hey, Balls, you idiot - you're a Kennedy fan. You happy THIS angle changed?
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Post by cactusjames on Sept 2, 2007 23:36:20 GMT -5
Tom, with all due respect, I was only speculating, and wrong about how many? Just Orton and Batista? Batista I'm not suprised he is getting off, they needs him, they can't afford to drop him for any amount of time with their lack of stars on smackdown. And Orton is a suprise, cause of all the shit he's been into. My whole point was if Chavo wrestled, and Orton wrestled, we would only see how it will all pan out after the taping this weekend. And I was off about two guys, specualting doesn't mean assuming.
For the record, Kennedy out really pisses me off. Him and Edge are two of my favorite heels and Kennedy was so high and mighty about being clean after Benoit. And while the dates of when the suspended guys bought their stuff is unknown, Kennedy acting like he's been clean for years is total malarky. I hope they are easy on him and give him the 30, it would suck if they make an example out of him and give him 60.
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Post by cactusjames on Sept 2, 2007 23:42:41 GMT -5
Also i just read on the Torch, names were wrongly named, Batista being one of the most prominent. Needless to say guys are pissed but are being told not to say shit.
Also, Jericho and HBK were contacted with the roster losing names, Jerichos agent is being a tough negotiator, and Michaels is either not ready or not receptive to return early. Personally, i think if he doesn't want to come back early, he wants to be as good as can be to work a full schedule, so i don't care if he wants to wait it out more. Jericho coming back would be really nice too in any capacity, but appearantly Jericho's agent knows they got a shitload of leverage for hammering out a contract.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 3, 2007 0:01:10 GMT -5
Couple of things on that - lets be real. Jericho, and HBK for that matter, would be smart to stay FAR AWAY right now. Cant you see the heat is on? The product is dirty. Its tarnished, under attack. This is not the time to come back. I have read in many places Jericho is unhappy with a lot of what is going on, and you know HBK - a bible-beater - cant be thrilled either. In fact, on a Torch audio just this past weekend, they said dont expect him to ever come back - its just not worth it for him.
Get off of this idea of people flocking back. If they were healthy and not returning in the past few months, why come back NOW?? Neither of them need the money, so get that factor out of your head.
Oh, and one more thing - I will certainly give HBK his due, but Jericho is NOT the answer to a problem...its not like you are calling back Hulk Hogan or Steve Austin, or the Rock. I love Jericho, but he was never a super-duperstar. He comes back, and the ratings go from 3.8 to 3.9, and you know it. Lets not make him out to be more than he is, in the eyes of others.
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Post by grover on Sept 3, 2007 0:47:20 GMT -5
This also sets up future muck ups from future investigations.
But, it would be no problem, since the WWE has loads of talent to cover for anyone who gets suspended. All they would have to do is have Charlie Haas dress up like Chick Gandil and have Trevor Murdoch dress up as Pete Rose and have him walk around offering wrestlers money to throw matches.
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 3, 2007 8:03:38 GMT -5
Kennedy is one of my favorite heels, but he'll be back.
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Post by cactusjames on Sept 3, 2007 9:20:00 GMT -5
Tom, relax, all I said was they were contacted, it's worthwhile to mention. I never said they're jesus comin g back to save the company from disasater. All I said was that I read there are two names that were called to try and make up for the depleted roster. I never made them out to be saviors.
And I never read HBK was never coming back, I read, as of last night, he was NOT interested in comicng back early, never read not coming back.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 3, 2007 9:36:49 GMT -5
Well, you have not read that...I have. I have heard talk of it for a while. One of the benefits of being a paid Torch subscriber, and not a browser of the free site.
As to Kennedy, Balls, keep deluding yourself. He was made to look like a complete ass last night, and has been removed from a storyline that was planned to shoot him to the moon. Directly to the main events. Keep shrugging it all off, you jackoff. He screwed himself BAD.
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Post by cactusjames on Sept 3, 2007 9:44:41 GMT -5
Tom you couldn't be more wrong. I havn't used the free site in a long ass time. I've had a sub and get the newsletter mailed to me. Want to make something else up?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 3, 2007 9:54:53 GMT -5
Well, then you are skipping the audios are avoiding the VIP message boards, cause you are missing something that has been beaten to death.
HBK is not only born-again, he is rich beyond belief. The guy was actually given a multi-million dollar inheritance from a loony wrestling fan a decade ago. He does not wrestle for the money. Add to this his body is injury-ravaged, and a wrong shot could cripple him, why WOULD he come back? The going belief is he'll make the old Hulk Hogan come in for 10 minutes and wave at the crowd, but he will NEVER be a full-time player again, and now is certainly not the time to come back. He is rightfully very resistant to all of the stink and bad feedback coming out of the fed right now.
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Post by cactusjames on Sept 3, 2007 17:37:00 GMT -5
When he comes back I expect an apology. I'm not going to fight who knows what about Michaels, I've only folowed every step of his carreer for over a decade, what do I know about him. I'll just leave it at when he comes back, you can't backpeddal and say you said it all along. You think he's done, i say he isn't and when he comes back and I am right again, I will tell you I told you so.
Anyway, even though the spoliers gave been out for a few hours now, but I'm still looking foward to see how it all plays out on tv. It's actually sort of depressing, my uncle whos on honeymoon and hasn't been following this was in shock and is ditching his bride to watch a little of raw. It's funny, a casual fan like my uncle thinks this is huge news, MSB, on the other hand, this is nothing. If anything, I hope with all the spots gone, tag team matches get more time. Even if it's Cryme Time or whoever, it's be nice to see London and Kendrick have some guys they could work some good matches with suring this time.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 3, 2007 17:40:47 GMT -5
Um, Cryme Tyme has been fired, albeit unrelated to the drug policy. Dont you read the other threads in this section?
As for you, James, I expect YOUR apology month by month as more time passes without HBK.
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 3, 2007 18:51:48 GMT -5
Again, for those who can't read, it's not a big deal because in one month from a programming standpoint, they will be back.
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Post by cactusjames on Sept 3, 2007 19:21:25 GMT -5
I missed the Cryme Time thing, my comp has been acting up recently, but if not them, then some team that can work good tag matches. My point is since they'll be without a bulk of talent for a month, it'd be nice to see some emphasis put back on tag matches, but it's unlikely and just wishful thinking. It's rough, and people are so clueless they think the ship is going to run smooth. It isn't likely, from anystand point. But some people are like the guys suspended, they just don't get it.
And I won't put a turntable on HBKs return, just that he will be back and my sig quote will be you telling me how I was right and the smartest man alive.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Sept 3, 2007 20:22:09 GMT -5
Tom are you saying that Mr. Kennedy SCREWED Mr. Kennedy??? lol
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Post by thecaptain15 on Sept 3, 2007 21:14:00 GMT -5
LOL at Vince rolling his eyes when he says "he knows Coach is the man for the job"....
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 4, 2007 7:54:07 GMT -5
Strong rumor that King Booker gave notice, and will shortly be done with the company.
He is probably one of the suspended, and with the new WWE ban on weed (Booker is, from all accounts, a huge user) he saw the writing on the wall, and is walking.
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 4, 2007 7:56:42 GMT -5
I wonder if he ends up in TNA. Hopefully it's not a true rumor, but if so, it ends a very successful run.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Sept 4, 2007 8:04:16 GMT -5
WOW now that would royally suck....
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 4, 2007 8:42:38 GMT -5
As I discussed with Balls over email, the WWE has Booker under contract, and if he leaves, he will sit at home, unpaid. They wont allow him to negotiate elsewhere, just as they have held RVD, Big Show, and Jericho - to name 3, when they left on their own accord. Also, TNA may not even be interested, as Booker has a stench on him now - the guy is mired in the deepest drug scandal in wrestling since the infamous steroid trial in the mid 90s that almost cost Vince his freedom, and his company.
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Post by MSBNYY on Sept 4, 2007 8:44:48 GMT -5
Seems pretty dumb for Booker to leave on his own and blow the money. For what? To smoke pot?
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 4, 2007 8:55:54 GMT -5
Word is that has something to do with it. But dont forget he showed up on this last list of wrestlers buying from the internet pharmacy, and was facing a suspension. If his drug use is so deep-rooted, it may be time for him to walk. From most accounts, he is not in need of money, and does not need to work ever again. He also owns his own gym.
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Post by cactusjames on Sept 4, 2007 11:27:55 GMT -5
Terrible. This fallout is looking worse and worse every day.
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Post by grover on Sept 4, 2007 11:30:34 GMT -5
He may not want to wrestle anymore, and may want to clean himself up. Who knows. I mean, he's 42. He's probably been feeling like it's time to hang it up for a while and sees this as a good time to hang it up.
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