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Post by cactusjames on Jun 10, 2008 8:34:11 GMT -5
Well we don't know because they don't release it. Realistically, I don't think he smokes crack or shoots up. And getting busted for smoking, a recreational drug, doesn't involve a suspension, just a cut on one pay check, where said money goes to some charity. It could be something else, but for arguments sake I think it's safe to assume it was a roid or growth hormone substance.
And yes, Balls you're right, HBK was a smaller champ, in fact him and Bret broke the mold for the way Vince usually handed title situations. Now obviously, JWY isn't going to be a main event title threat, but he's a good enough worker he deserves a bigger push, but he knows that won't happen with his size, same for a lot of guys, Vince just has it in his head that people won't buy a smaller guy beating up a bigger guy. Shows you how he feels about MMA.
And I can't even count Jericho, he was champ for like 2 months, just a buffer for HHH when he retunred from his first quad tear. Vince never really let Jericho run with it, sadly, just the pride in beating Austin and Rock. Probably Benoit or Mysterio would be most recent, but Rey's reign was horribly booked so he was never portrayed as a really good smaller champion.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jun 10, 2008 8:37:11 GMT -5
It could be something else, but for arguments sake I think it's safe to assume it was a roid or growth hormone substance.
I disagree strongly. Its most likely PAINKILLERS he could not provide a scrip for.
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Post by cactusjames on Jun 10, 2008 8:44:53 GMT -5
That was my second guess, but my money is on my guess. He's really over for a mid carder, and if he wants a bigger push he needs to get bigger for Vince's liking. If he wasn't as over as he is, I'd agree with you.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jun 10, 2008 9:29:43 GMT -5
Sorry, steroids do not make a guy TALLER. Not buying what you're selling here. And no one in the world is going to care that J Wang Yang is "cut."
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Post by cactusjames on Jun 10, 2008 9:36:46 GMT -5
Are you insane? When did I say steroids make you taller? I said bigger as in muscle mass. Jesus Christ talk about nitpicking. If there was a drug to make someone taller I'd know what it was cause I'd be taking it.
And again I'm not saying anyone cares but JWY. All my point is, if he was more "cut", he wouldn't be jobbing every week with Shannon Moore. If he were bigger and the company gave a fuck about Moore, they would have won once from Miz and Morrison, but no one in the offiice is behind them, like you said no one cares. Which is why I don't see it far fetched for a guy to realize he could be higher on the card if he got more ripped. We're not talking quantum physics here.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Jun 10, 2008 10:15:42 GMT -5
I see my obvious point went right over your head. Yang getting muscular is not going to move him up the card much. NO ONE that short has rocketed up the card, ever. Extra muscle and cut on him will mean NOTHING. Its quite more likely that he has been abusing painkillers, which he probably gorges on anyway cause he is one of the few guys who takes big bumps even in his TV matches.
From most accounts it does not seem to be steroid-related as no one knows of him being a dabbler. Well, duh. You, however, can think what you wish.
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Post by cactusjames on Jun 10, 2008 13:10:41 GMT -5
Most accounts? That's speculation just like what I'm doing. All anyone can do is speculate because they don't release the info, they didn't on Jeff Hardy, yet everyone was so sure it was recreational drugs. What, Jeff can't take pain killers cause of his past? So it's impossible for Jeff to take roids since he's just a druggie, and a fucking jap midget can only be on pain killers cause he doesn't maybe want to win a match? He wants to continue being a glorified jobber who's really over for a low to mid carder.
And I never said he'd skyrocket to the main event at a ppv, but maybe if he was bigger and had the backing of someone writing, he'd beat Miz and Morrison for a change so there's meaning to the Tag Titles beside the dirt sheet.
I agree with you, I just don't think it's open and shut, especially no one really knows anyway. Is it more likely it's pills, yeah, but 99% to two like you're making it out to be. Just cause someone isn't known for doing somthing doesn't mean they'll never try it.
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Post by thecaptain15 on Jun 10, 2008 15:25:24 GMT -5
Tom I would miss JYW on Smackdown TV.....
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Post by $heriff Tom on Oct 13, 2008 9:01:59 GMT -5
Heres an LOL. Latest casualty of the wellness policy is Mr Dolph Ziggler.
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Post by MSBNYY on Oct 13, 2008 10:16:49 GMT -5
Every time I see a new post in this thread, I wonder what Jeff Hardy did now.
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Post by Ms. Jericho on Oct 13, 2008 12:14:43 GMT -5
Aww, poor Jeff.
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Post by $heriff Tom on Sept 2, 2009 12:47:21 GMT -5
Saw Baloo mention the Mysterio thing today, I thought we covered it on here - as most of us know, its a week old. There was a lot of text messaging going on amongst some of us, thats probably why I remembered it as being on here.
A few notes on this - this was announced in a small blurb last week, with the suspension taking place after this weeks tapings, so they could handle the IC Title scenario. There is anger on both sides. Rey claims he has a scrip for the drug, but did not produce it in time (WWE wrestlers get a certain amount of time to produce this after a fail) - he blames this on being on the road, and not being informed until it was an impossible situation for him. His mistake was going in the media in Mexico, and complaining about this. Vince blew a gasket, and at one point wanted Mysterio humiliated on the way out, to the tune of losing his mask or some such.
Cooler heads prevailed, to a point...today WWE announced the suspension with a huge banner on WWE.COM - they usually announce these in much more low-key fashion. So they are still mad at him.
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